tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post1532447801254135034..comments2024-03-10T21:35:32.778+11:00Comments on 3++ is the new black. | Kirb your enthusiasm!: BoLS's army rankings rebuttal (40k army analysis): Good armiesAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-28488010310616149092010-11-03T04:55:04.113+11:002010-11-03T04:55:04.113+11:00@Meister_Kai: 2nd edition Eldar were pretty severe...@Meister_Kai: 2nd edition Eldar were pretty severely broken, IIRC. It was pretty much axiomatic that this was where you found your WAAC players in that edition.Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13568239768979592457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-70894447021915501762010-09-07T16:09:53.572+10:002010-09-07T16:09:53.572+10:00Once again your eloquence and reasoning is jaw dro...Once again your eloquence and reasoning is jaw dropping Da Warboss and I can't wait for your next troll post <3.<br /><br />Orks have no way to deal with the mass of Mech which Witchunters can put out all of which screws over every aspect of Orks. They have mass high strength, decent AP templates which screw your hordes and enough meltaguns to make even Nobs and Kanz stop and ponder. Add in IG can still be used and they can get excellent objective sitters and suppression fire back-up.<br /><br />I point you to the Armies in 5th articles and How To for Tau to show how wrong you. If you think you can deal with 4+ turns of Tau firepower whilst you move through their defensive layers and then actually threaten them in combat reliably (yes sometimes it does happen, we play a game based on dice), well not sure what game you are playing, 2+ cover or something?<br /><br />Stop trolling and offering your opinion and start offering your opinion with reasoning behind it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-18687232616918798322010-09-07T15:20:19.736+10:002010-09-07T15:20:19.736+10:00I play orks and don't have much trouble vs any...I play orks and don't have much trouble vs anyone. I win a lot and i lose some, but no army is perfect. They sure as hell don't rate below Witchhunters or tau.40K + T&Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09058918571922538449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-80391152042157392062010-06-29T13:40:51.054+10:002010-06-29T13:40:51.054+10:00@ Meister_Kai - Ask Stelek. He has been in the hob...@ Meister_Kai - Ask Stelek. He has been in the hobby since Rogue Trader and seems to have the sort of memory necessary to undertake that task.<br /><br />MessangerMessanger of Deathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16107009355887227092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-22275092066427007562010-06-29T11:11:39.986+10:002010-06-29T11:11:39.986+10:00@Thud; couldn't agree more.
@Meister_Kai; co...@Thud; couldn't agree more. <br /><br />@Meister_Kai; couldn't give you a list of good armies from 3rd and 4th having not understood the game mechanics as much as I did now but from recollection Eldar were good through 3rd/4th due to CTM & tri-falcons. SWolves were very effective in 3rd as were Chaos which carried over into 4th (especially with their Legion codex). Can't recall any others but other input would be great?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-55851070927987139502010-06-29T00:38:22.944+10:002010-06-29T00:38:22.944+10:00I kind of agree with IG being #1 just because of t...I kind of agree with IG being #1 just because of their flexibility and ability to spam tons of vehicles. I think Tau are the army to beat in 5th, but they only have like one build, which is why i give the nod to IG just like you Kirby.<br /><br />I play Chaos and I hate the fact that the codex is junk. It pisses me off so much that GW just shit out the codex without thinking of the impending 5th edition implications. I still play my flavor of chaos on a regular basis and win on a regular basis but I don't play against lists that are super tuned up like i see on blogs.<br /><br />I still have a hard time convincing the people I play against that orks, chaos marines, daemons, and necrons aren't good.Warsmith Morgothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03552507213199801436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-18052777395927618672010-06-29T00:27:32.737+10:002010-06-29T00:27:32.737+10:00"Speaks volumes about how the balance of 40k ..."Speaks volumes about how the balance of 40k has evolved from 3rd edition, when it started becoming the game it is today. "<br /><br />I find this comment very interesting, could we perhaps get a breakdown of what have been the historically best books in each edition? I do remember reading somewhere that Eldar were the be all end all of either 3rd or 4th edition (then the Starcannon was nerfed or something).Meister_Kainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-59692779105047898962010-06-28T22:53:56.226+10:002010-06-28T22:53:56.226+10:00I'm glad orks aren't in jwolfs list, so ma...I'm glad orks aren't in jwolfs list, so many people think they are amazing and it really pisses me off as I play orks and get told that orks are 'beardy' and nob bikers (which i don't even take) are the 'best unit in the game'<br /><br />lolCaznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-23871332046779728762010-06-28T22:38:52.782+10:002010-06-28T22:38:52.782+10:00Duh, Orks and Daemons are the best cuz they win to...Duh, Orks and Daemons are the best cuz they win tournaments!Chumbalayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543857960730597490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-17032567695058997782010-06-28T22:07:54.228+10:002010-06-28T22:07:54.228+10:00The best thing about all this?
The fact that the...The best thing about all this? <br /><br />The fact that there is honest disagreement about which is the best codex. Speaks volumes about how the balance of 40k has evolved from 3rd edition, when it started becoming the game it is today.Thudnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-85091334165439224292010-06-28T21:36:58.162+10:002010-06-28T21:36:58.162+10:00This is actually hilariously alike what I figured ...This is actually hilariously alike what I figured the army rankings to be, except that I had Imperial Guard first and Space Wolves second. <br /><br />It does my imperium-not-liking heart good to see Tau (an older codex) and Tyranids (newish) so high up the list. I think the reason they are underestimated so much is that people aren't playing them in an optimal way, for instance my Tyranid playing friend plays one Tervigon and no Hive Guard (using 2 Zoans and Doom) at 2000. He still wins a good amount but he could be slaughtering people. <br /><br />I will be buying the DE codex the second it hits shelves to check that mother out.Meister_Kainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-63580514351555216872010-06-28T19:29:25.004+10:002010-06-28T19:29:25.004+10:00I agree with general analysis. Especially regardin...I agree with general analysis. Especially regarding your decision to split the Space Marine Codices up. DA and BT are really limited in their builds when compared to their 5th Edition brethren.<br /><br />I'll never understand how players consider JWolf to be awesome. If he ranks CSM that highly then he really needs to reconsider alot of things.<br /><br />MessangerMessanger of Deathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16107009355887227092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-26175187809804293202010-06-28T15:41:14.461+10:002010-06-28T15:41:14.461+10:00>JWolf was spot on with his IG platoon analysis...>JWolf was spot on with his IG platoon analysis which is sadly no longer available but incorrect in why it is useful (suppression fire, not anti-tank fire)<br /><br />To be fair, the two are very closely related concepts and there aren't all that many people who even understand the difference.<br /><br />But yes, agreed on almost all counts.AbusePuppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07413248837734103198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-59809684755351662042010-06-28T14:18:22.009+10:002010-06-28T14:18:22.009+10:00You're damned right Chaos does not deserve to ...You're damned right Chaos does not deserve to be on there. I'm the only guy at my FLGS that plays Chaos, and I have to explain rather slowly why Chaos fails. Still, it's fun to play with a kill count goal.<br /><br />Can't say I can offer much else to the issue at hand, not enough cognitive authority on my part yet. :PIshamaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15275252157445215532noreply@blogger.com