tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post1819514501464359803..comments2024-03-10T21:35:32.778+11:00Comments on 3++ is the new black. | Kirb your enthusiasm!: Fantasy High Elf lists! 2250Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-39721018883058723552010-08-02T22:59:26.836+10:002010-08-02T22:59:26.836+10:00Just for clarification. You get 2 for the general...Just for clarification. You get 2 for the general and 1 for every banner. So at 2.5k, you have 3 and the total you cannot fall below is 3. So if you lose your general, or the LSG, you auto-lose.<br /><br />The Watchtower scenario requires a lot of thought also. If you do not have a HtH element to take out whatever is in the tower, you lose also.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08325595563469580156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-33258190549284878962010-08-02T22:55:25.271+10:002010-08-02T22:55:25.271+10:00jollyboy42 is correct on that. Auto-losing a miss...jollyboy42 is correct on that. Auto-losing a mission is very bad. I went from a Fortitude of 2 (only my General at 2k) to 5 (2 clanrat banners and BSB). It's not like units with banners are bad, and BSBs are pretty damn useful.<br /><br />I'll be using the pretty LSG models as spearmen myself. Bows en masse look good, just remember that it's a bunch of S3 shots.Chumbalayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543857960730597490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-15299939882695221442010-08-02T22:08:27.024+10:002010-08-02T22:08:27.024+10:00@Kirby - Blood and Glory is the one that punishes ...@Kirby - Blood and Glory is the one that punishes you for not having banners. You have a fortitude score based upon the number of banners in the list. If you drop below the point total / 1000 for you fortitude score, you auto-lose. So at 2500 the key value is 3.<br /><br />I do not remember exactly, but you get a point for your general, and a point for each banner. So, you would be awfully close to an auto-lose on that mission.<br /><br />The other mission that you want to pay close attention to is the Watchtower. Those 2 missions will change your army build.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08325595563469580156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-69806045397566562492010-08-02T09:39:17.022+10:002010-08-02T09:39:17.022+10:00Okay finally have some time to reply =p.
@Kuolema...Okay finally have some time to reply =p.<br /><br />@Kuolema; Drain Magic and +5 to dispel isn't enough o.O? In regards to casting easy spells aye, I'm still tossing up between who gets what in terms of the Lores but I think High Magic is just that more beneficial for the list overall with things like Vaul's, Flames & Arrow Curse. I've practice rolled some dice just to get a feel of the magic phase but not the same as in a game. Book of Hoeth is 100pts so I can't give the Mage anything else can I?<br /><br />@jollyboy42; barely skimmed the missions, what's that one focus on sorry? I think my issues of large units is complete lack of flexibility it brings you + forces my opponent to get more units into combat with me. Again, not sure how this will work until I get some actual games in though.<br /><br />@Chumbalaya; I was going to use Spearmen but just wanted to use the Lothern Sea Guard models =p. Could always have them counts-as Spearmen I guess. I would of thought 40 longbows + RBTs with re-rolls to hit most of the time would of been pretty good, especially if some Metal hexes get off.<br /><br />In regards to BSB. HE can only take it on their Princes? This would most likely mean dropping my lv2 which would really put a burden on my Lv4 unless I went maybe a lv3 with no Book of Hoeth backed up by some Lv1/2s? We'll see if this list works better at 2500 when I post that list today! Thanks for feedback so far guys.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-91756273345438246842010-08-01T01:53:53.087+10:002010-08-01T01:53:53.087+10:00I think a block of 20-25 spearmen backed by archer...I think a block of 20-25 spearmen backed by archers would be good. Gives you a cheap steadfast unit you can augment with a magic banner and hide your BSB in. Archers make for decent disruption and shooty, but don't expect much even with Curse of Arrow Attraction.<br /><br />Banners are a must now. I had the same problem with my Skaven, so I've dropped out some MSU stormvermin for more Clanrat units.<br /><br />Drain Magic and +5 to dispel is pretty damn good, but failing 1 dispel roll will fuck you over. I like a more aggressive magic defense, killing the casters :P<br /><br />I'm trying to figure out how I want my HE, but I think it will look similar. I'll be picking up some Eagles and Shadow Warriors for sure and probably drop to 2 "wings" of cav and chariots centered on my BSB unit. Phoenix Guard are a possibility too.Chumbalayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543857960730597490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-30803173743608690612010-07-31T21:31:06.384+10:002010-07-31T21:31:06.384+10:00I think you will be in trouble in the Blood and Gl...I think you will be in trouble in the Blood and Glory mission. <br /><br />I would suggest some more banners, and to make that worthwhile, I would suggest running your archer units in units of at least 15 with a banner. That will allow you to take advantage of the Volley Fire rule and put a banner in the unit without taking a chance of losing it easily.<br /><br />So instead of running 4 10x archers, I would suggest 1 19x archer with banner and 2 10x archer.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08325595563469580156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-81832593896970260512010-07-31T19:37:14.236+10:002010-07-31T19:37:14.236+10:00I learned the hard way that you really, really wan...I learned the hard way that you really, really want a battle standard at all times - not matter how large or small your army is.<br /><br />High elves can put theirs on chariots, like dark elves, right?<br /><br />Other than that, it looks a bit like my first dark elf army =PVT2https://www.blogger.com/profile/13922615677851541327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-85535944027024348242010-07-31T13:47:13.912+10:002010-07-31T13:47:13.912+10:00Not bad, not bad. It includes everything you want ...Not bad, not bad. It includes everything you want and looks decent.<br /><br />Few points thou.<br /><br />Magic defense, you seem to be relying on drain magic and +5 from having a level 4 and being HE. I don't think that is going to cut it if someone goes really magic heavy. Thinking two level 3s or 4s. <br /><br />Second while casting lots of quick easy spells looks good you must never forget if you fail to cast a spell your level 4 can't cast anything else that turn. More spells you cast more chance of the dice disagreeing with you.<br /><br />The book, while lots of IF is nice your mage is REALLY squishy. You have lots of points sitting in one T3 elf with no save haven't got a look thou the new magic items myself but I've heard there are some nice ones to keep your heros safe, high elves have some decent magic items of their own.<br /><br />Leadership, You don't have a BSB so be prepared to see your little elves running away after a few casualities every now and then. But elven leadership isn't horrible so shouldn't be too much of an issue.Kuolemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15733502677714959049noreply@blogger.com