tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post4123601440646930927..comments2024-03-10T21:35:32.778+11:00Comments on 3++ is the new black. | Kirb your enthusiasm!: Which Space Marine army overall is better at assault?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-22937394122636404282010-05-30T00:38:59.199+10:002010-05-30T00:38:59.199+10:00I'd rather have BT LC Termies over BA LC Termi...I'd rather have BT LC Termies over BA LC Termies, but once you start adding in Storm Shields BA get the nod.Chumbalayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543857960730597490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-9177968433854343242010-05-29T20:40:32.423+10:002010-05-29T20:40:32.423+10:00Marshal... FNP will greatly increase the survivabi...Marshal... FNP will greatly increase the survivability of the terminators (and assault marines) greatly outside of their transports - something assault armies need to be able to cope with.<br /><br />Remember, BA do have access to preferred enemy.... unleash rage!<br /><br />As we all know... New SS>>>Old SS.... 3++ IS the new black after all!<br /><br />+1..... <3<br /><br />Cost and additional equipment also makes a difference! :(<br /><br />A BT dread can't potentially plough through any unit in a single turn... something Talons can do. <br /><br />But don't worry... we'll get a new codex soon enough!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-27765070665680268942010-05-29T19:51:34.409+10:002010-05-29T19:51:34.409+10:00A bit of a troll here;
Why are Sang Guard or Assa...A bit of a troll here;<br /><br />Why are Sang Guard or Assault Terms w/ FC&FNP better than BT ones?<br />As soon as the IC Priest is taken out, the BA drop in effectiveness, whilst it remains built into BT. It is brittle like a Chaos Icon.<br />Charging BT terms > BA ones, BT re-roll to hit - who cares about FNP if you've already killed 'em all? ;)<br /><br />How are BA assault troops any better than BT Crusaders? It's FC v Preferred Enemy. If the BA don't get the charge off, they lose.<br /><br />I would love a mêlée Dread for Templars but how is a MM, HF one not as good as a BA one?<br />Blood Talons are nice but then so is a HF. The range of the MM means the Furioso or DeathCo can be picked off before getting into assault range and 12" MELTA range is a good thing.<br />Re-rolls to hit is also nice for a unit with only 3 attacks on the charge.<br /><br />What do you think?Marshal Wilhelmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08274955398809519542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-13928284772143529952010-05-24T16:17:59.287+10:002010-05-24T16:17:59.287+10:00All of this sums up to: "Blood Rodeo is aweso...All of this sums up to: "Blood Rodeo is awesome!" The biker screen allows the ASM to get off the assault whilst the FNP makes the whole army impressively survivable w/the Priests being able to hide behind the combats. Teleporting termies add in a big punch.<br /><br />BA are really about combined assaults. They can't take as many awesome units like TWC/Wolf Lords but due to the FNP/FC bubbles they can and will overwhelm opponent's if there are serious CC threats around (i.e. Termies, VV, Sang Guard). SW are much more we shoot you, you get close we your with the majority of their lists (TWC lists are we shoot and run at you and eat you and drink ale!).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-51321610874022250222010-05-24T15:25:55.081+10:002010-05-24T15:25:55.081+10:00Roland has the key of it. BA need to charge. When ...Roland has the key of it. BA need to charge. When they do, they are truly frightening, when they don't, they are only slightly scarier than vanilla marines. Jump packs help them get the charge, but not if they deepstrike, so Descent of Angels is nice, but not as nice as it could be.<br /><br />SW are always scary - more so if they have been tooled up for assault. Powerweapon/Mark of the Wulfen, Wolf Standard make Grey Hunters a scary proposition (also add the Wolf Guard w/ powerfist that will be there 90% of the time).winterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14561873698351796093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-60071090216517602852010-05-23T23:28:20.637+10:002010-05-23T23:28:20.637+10:00SW, BT and SM perform a lot better as a more balan...SW, BT and SM perform a lot better as a more balanced army, while BA can do pure assault quite effectively.Chumbalayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543857960730597490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-14456803290121884752010-05-23T16:53:17.195+10:002010-05-23T16:53:17.195+10:00Good stuff Kirb. For the most par I agree that BA ...Good stuff Kirb. For the most par I agree that BA are right now the best looking Assault oriented army out there. Hopefully though, when they revamp BT's, BT's also become a very strong CC army.<br /><br />Though I will say, when comparing SW and BA, I feel that it really comes down to who gets the charge. The FNP/FC abilities truly rely on them pulling off the charge. Otherwise, they're as good as Grey Hunters in CC for the most part. <br /><br />That I think is what makes BA extremely strong, but it's also their Achilles Heel: they need to charge so they capitalize on FC. Otherwise their effectiveness drops significantly. On the other hand, SW don't rely on the charge and do equally well charging or being charged. <br /><br />And TWC <3Roland Durendalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08389723800776089633noreply@blogger.com