tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post5755952630326206897..comments2024-03-10T21:35:32.778+11:00Comments on 3++ is the new black. | Kirb your enthusiasm!: AbusePuppy's Tyranid Review Part the Last: Wrapup and List BuildingAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-72449745536290918772010-08-25T17:19:40.694+10:002010-08-25T17:19:40.694+10:00You have propably read it however for Termagants s...You have propably read it however for Termagants see GMorts "Can Termagants actually kill things…"<br />http://gmortschaotica.blogspot.com/2010/08/tyranid-project-can-termagants-actually.html<br /><br />As for Primes, without the ability to get in a pod they lack the versitility to be a really good unit. Yes he can walk around with other units but other than enhancing a Deathstar there is very few units I would join one too. There always seems better HQ choices.<br /><br />A full reserve army does want the doulbe tyrant/swarmlord for the +2 reserves. However like Drop Pods one or two Spore Pods can be useful for delivering threats to different areas of the table. That is where the prime shined for me and why mine is now sitting on the bookcase.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-89460364014767932192010-08-11T08:08:39.280+10:002010-08-11T08:08:39.280+10:00Reserve armies & psychic defenses took a hit w...Reserve armies & psychic defenses took a hit with the FAQ, not the Prime. Since the majority of the time for a Reserve army you were deploying 2x Tyrants for +2 reserve roll... He can still deploy with whatever squad he needs to on foot and provides a very solid and cheap HQ when a Tyrant isn't viable/too expensive. 5 pts for what is essentially a T3/WS3/I4/4+ w/S4 gun platform is pretty good. Not fantastic but solid and when you start buffing them...insane.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-86583400777331995442010-08-11T05:43:21.087+10:002010-08-11T05:43:21.087+10:00The Prime took a real hit with the FAQ rulings. N...The Prime took a real hit with the FAQ rulings. Not being able to get in a Pod with his mates, Whips not working on Furious Charge and Shadows not working on embarked psykers. Adding it all together dropped him from good to average.<br /><br />As for Termagants you said it yourself "when buffed". They are not bad on their own, but not good either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-5175434235703275052010-08-09T07:03:49.572+10:002010-08-09T07:03:49.572+10:00Curious as to why Prime and Termagants are only av...Curious as to why Prime and Termagants are only average to you Iyracian. Termagants are perhaps one of the best Troops out in there when buffed by Tervigons/Tyrants and even at 5pts are cheap as chips whilst the Prime is just plain super-cost effective.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-88036191569818628982010-08-09T04:50:17.387+10:002010-08-09T04:50:17.387+10:00I agree with about 95% of your review. Here is my...I agree with about 95% of your review. Here is my quick summary of the Tyranid Codex.<br />Best Units: Swarmlord, Hive Guard, Tervigon, Trygon, Gargoyles, Hormagaunts<br />Good Units: Hive Tyrant, Tyrannofex, Raveners, Zoanthropes, Genestealers<br />Average Units: Tyranid Prime, Deathleaper, Venomthrope, Warriors, Carnifex, Harpy, Termagants, Shrikes, Tyrant Guard, Mycetic Spores, Parasite, Biovore<br /><br />Weak Units: Mawloc, Lictor, Doom, Ymgarl Genestealers, Rippers. They can be made to work but difficult.<br />Cruds Units: Pyrovore, Spore Mines, Sky-slasher Brood, Old One Eye. Just do not use these. Ever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-13020551874930620112010-06-16T14:53:59.593+10:002010-06-16T14:53:59.593+10:00Great Article as always. Just a question: What a...Great Article as always. Just a question: What about air force?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-51414346127044095452010-05-27T06:50:41.278+10:002010-05-27T06:50:41.278+10:00It's this framework with some changes dependin...It's this framework with some changes depending on points level:<br />Prime w/ bonesword and lash<br />Hive Guard (3x2 or 3x3)<br />2 Tervigons (catalyst, glands, toxin)<br />2x 10 Termagants<br />2 Fexes w/ scytals and frag spines<br />2x T-fexes w/ rupture cannons<br /><br />It has problems with speed, but pretty much anything the fexstar touches is dead.Chumbalayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543857960730597490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-18006153553857867712010-05-27T03:03:58.825+10:002010-05-27T03:03:58.825+10:00So is 'Fexstar working out for you, then? I re...So is 'Fexstar working out for you, then? I really need to get around to trying it out some more, but with 'Ard Boyz in season I've been trying to get games in with my Tau so that I have a little more experience. Care to throw out a list so I can compare? I know I didn't put a list up on the last two builds, since I'm not really that confident in my assessments of them.<br /><br />@Myke<br />I don't think it's mandatory, no; he's very, very good, but there are some armies that don't want him. I've been toying around with some all-DS lists that use Devilgaunts and Warriors as their troops, and they seem survivable enough.<br /><br />You _can_ run single-Flyrant lists, but they're just going to be subpar. You'll do okay versus mediocre players, but anyone who's good will stomp on your forces as they arrive piecemeal- going from a 3+ to a 2+ is a huge difference, as anyone who's shot Terminators can attest. But can you do it? Yeah, you can. I'm not proud to admit that I run a single-Flyrant list at 1500 because a lot of the locals here just... can't deal with it. Talking with the shop owner, I was apparently the first person to ever run an all-DS army there. Yeah, I dunno, I guess everyone just... forgot Drop Pods existed?<br /><br />Difficulty with DSing is one of the reasons I like having a HVC on my Tyrant, so he's guaranteed to get a shot off when he lands.AbusePuppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07413248837734103198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-18059669802661502342010-05-26T23:56:52.722+10:002010-05-26T23:56:52.722+10:00Tervigon is good in a lot of lists, but I wouldn&#...Tervigon is good in a lot of lists, but I wouldn't say it's mandatory. Podding Armies, Genestealer swarms, Warrior armies, and the like don't necessarily need Tervigons. But it's hard to go without, at least for me.<br /><br />Well, if INAT has its way we'll only get 1 Hive Commander bonus. Either way, saving 300 points and *only* having 2/3 of your army come in turn 2 should be fine.Chumbalayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543857960730597490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-37019800874579402182010-05-26T16:28:00.362+10:002010-05-26T16:28:00.362+10:00Brilliant Article Series!
There is one thing i&#...Brilliant Article Series!<br /> <br />There is one thing i'd really like to know: Do you think a Tervigon is mandatory for every competitive list? Even the all-reserve list?<br /><br />And the other question is: Do you think an all-reserve list can work with only one Hive Commander in it? Cause i mean i like those flyrants, but they're not worth 300Points, are they? And they have a high risk of Deep-Strike Misshap or they have to come down where you don't want them, to avoid DS-MH.Myke.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13602118739642543671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-60111646481719880142010-05-26T14:40:42.592+10:002010-05-26T14:40:42.592+10:00Yeah In your stated post, you have said that it ha...Yeah In your stated post, you have said that it have not enough anti tank, ehich i thought of myself. I have now At units and thanks to this blog I am now aware and play like a pro man! keep on updating and I will be waiting..lol!tyranidhttp://www.tyranid.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-55892551697804231282010-05-25T22:07:59.259+10:002010-05-25T22:07:59.259+10:00Great stuff AP. {^}
After only a couple games, I...Great stuff AP. {^}<br /><br />After only a couple games, I <3 my fexstar, Tervy, HG and T-fexes.Chumbalayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543857960730597490noreply@blogger.com