tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post6558050303783902240..comments2024-03-10T21:35:32.778+11:00Comments on 3++ is the new black. | Kirb your enthusiasm!: Email in: Eldar list critique for Nova OpenAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-28824742452980187742010-07-13T09:43:27.355+10:002010-07-13T09:43:27.355+10:00Unless "1981" points is a theme for you,...Unless "1981" points is a theme for you, I would either put another FD into a squad or put Spirit Stones on something. I would believe you really need to squeeze for points at NOVA con.Meister_Kaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08328762649267641369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-83864814484237768872010-07-13T09:36:25.485+10:002010-07-13T09:36:25.485+10:00*Sulk**Sulk*TheKing Elessarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04981821487098781957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-27506464253273323092010-07-13T09:24:09.156+10:002010-07-13T09:24:09.156+10:00@Stelek: I didn't want my email to be eaten by...@Stelek: I didn't want my email to be eaten by your mail box. I do have 3 squads of two vypers. Any other criticisms?islyfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11724650409736136505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-21914696575791065012010-07-13T09:05:41.353+10:002010-07-13T09:05:41.353+10:00It's okay Stelek *pats.*
I believe the Vypers...It's okay Stelek *pats.*<br /><br />I believe the Vypers are in squads of 3x2 already.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-69836698528539929182010-07-12T18:26:42.602+10:002010-07-12T18:26:42.602+10:00Oh fine, ask Kirby. I'm all hurt inside.
Spl...Oh fine, ask Kirby. I'm all hurt inside.<br /><br />Split the Vypers into squadrons.<br /><br />If and when you use them to block, saves you from losing them to torrent of fire/squadron rules early/after blocking.Stelekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13908910153647792622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-47977955727728418752010-07-11T21:59:08.825+10:002010-07-11T21:59:08.825+10:00Agreed.... 2nd list.... warlocks die, you die. If ...Agreed.... 2nd list.... warlocks die, you die. If you reserve, no fortune, you die. If you don't and go 2nd, you die. No fun.<br /><br />Strangely I have to say the vypers add something the warlocks don't. Council are a pain, but they can't block and don't have the output of the yypers.<br /><br />Maybe I just don't know what I'm talking about...?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-25656093732344651632010-07-11T12:58:11.757+10:002010-07-11T12:58:11.757+10:00Agree on taking the first one. If you wanted to ta...Agree on taking the first one. If you wanted to take the 2nd one I'd replace Autarch with a 2nd seer so you've got some reliability in getting Fortune off.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-23999019511676487452010-07-11T11:47:46.317+10:002010-07-11T11:47:46.317+10:00^Crap didn't see the "x3's" lol,...^Crap didn't see the "x3's" lol, makes me look silly. <br /><br />Anyway, while this is probably about as good as it gets when it comes to singular large council at 2K, its only going to do well against large parking lots with no psy defense (and how many of those are around).Meister_Kaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08328762649267641369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-34956743494494996362010-07-11T11:45:41.476+10:002010-07-11T11:45:41.476+10:00The first one, probably definitely.
I was going t...The first one, probably definitely.<br /><br />I was going to run a council in my list as well before I realized everyone and their dad has Psy Hoods or some other crap. I just don't think it would be very reliable. <br /><br />Besides, one Falcon, one squad of Dragons, just seems meh.Meister_Kaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08328762649267641369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-47345761220057185142010-07-11T11:36:35.851+10:002010-07-11T11:36:35.851+10:00Thanks for the replies guys. BTW here is the other...Thanks for the replies guys. BTW here is the other list I am debating on bringing. If you want to compare and contrast these 2 lists. I having trouble deciding which one one would be more competitive.<br /><br />HQ: Farseer (1#, 185 pts)<br /> 1 Farseer @ 185 pts ( Doom ; Fortune ; Runes of Warding; Runes of Witnessing; Spirit Stones; Eldar Jetbike)<br /><br />HQ: Warlock Unit (6#, 315 pts)<br /> 1 Warlock Unit @ 315 pts<br /> 1 Warlock ( Enhance ; Eldar Jetbike)<br /> 1 Warlock ( Embolden ; Eldar Jetbike)<br /> 1 Warlock ( Destructor ; Eldar Jetbike)<br /> 1 Warlock ( Destructor ; Eldar Jetbike)<br /> 1 Warlock ( Embolden ; Eldar Jetbike)<br /> 1 Warlock (Eldar Jetbike)<br /><br />HQ: Autarch (1#, 120 pts)<br /> 1 Autarch @ 120 pts (Eldar Jetbike; Laser Lance)<br /><br />Elite: Fire Dragons (6#, 225 pts)(x3)<br /> 5 Fire Dragons @ 225 pts<br /> 1 Wave Serpent (Shuriken Cannon; TL Bright Lances)<br /><br />Troops: Dire Avengers (5#, 60 pts)(X3)<br /> 5 Dire Avengers @ 60 pts<br /><br />Heavy Support: Falcon (1#, 175 pts) (X3)<br /> 1 Falcon @ 175 pts (Holo-Field; Scatter Laser; Shuriken Cannon)<br /><br />Total Roster Cost: 2000islyfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11724650409736136505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-16832333508974302142010-07-11T09:36:49.956+10:002010-07-11T09:36:49.956+10:00Falcons then lose their excellent torrent status &...Falcons then lose their excellent torrent status & are much less reliable than the twin-linked ones on Serpents. Whilst having your BLs/Dragons together sucks in terms of anti-tank clumped up, it's the best option for this type of list. You really need those BLs in an Eldar list just to cover your bases.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-51026298121319974962010-07-11T06:31:07.629+10:002010-07-11T06:31:07.629+10:00I'm not sure... any list with more than one ra...I'm not sure... any list with more than one raider will struggle to put down 3 serpents full of dragons and if he does... the lances go too. Why not put them on the Falcons and spread the heavy anti-tank?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-29868056582870373192010-07-11T06:16:35.611+10:002010-07-11T06:16:35.611+10:00I agree with the above regarding BL's, but it ...I agree with the above regarding BL's, but it also has much to do with how you handle going second. If you reserve everything you need to make sure you use your Vypers to grant cover saves for your FD Serpents, because like others have said those will be the first things targeted vs anyone with Land Raiders.<br /><br />I always wondered about Farseer with Autarch, but I wasn't sure how it would work. <br /><br />But yeah, I would rather just have 5 Fire Dragons personally over the Exarch. I have no experience with the DBF, but it seems to me that if your FD are caught out in the open after destroying a tank or nuking a monstrous creature, well, they've already done their duty and one extra flamer won't do much anyhow. Besides, I doubt you'll see many people there with 0 natural FD targets.Meister_Kaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08328762649267641369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-89429755091558674462010-07-11T05:32:35.691+10:002010-07-11T05:32:35.691+10:00Agree with Kirby re: lances. Having all your anti...Agree with Kirby re: lances. Having all your anti-Raider in Dragons, potent as they are, can backfire.Chumbalayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543857960730597490noreply@blogger.com