tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post7560853434361543110..comments2024-03-10T21:35:32.778+11:00Comments on 3++ is the new black. | Kirb your enthusiasm!: List request: Kaney 2k IGAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-63567275868037652602010-03-03T23:03:22.916+11:002010-03-03T23:03:22.916+11:00Much better kirbz. Ill prolly end up doing some tw...Much better kirbz. Ill prolly end up doing some twisting nd turning to get another chim in for that last vet squad,but ill see. Chears.Kaneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-29668881573258326762010-03-03T07:01:47.754+11:002010-03-03T07:01:47.754+11:00The list doesn't need a massive amount of melt...The list doesn't need a massive amount of melta, hence the lack and is attempting to take the most out of the bubble-wrap unit but I'll simply do a streamlining of your list.<br /><br />Drop the Inq, PBS, Nades, Power Sword and ACs off the Vets. Drop the Meltas off company platoon and replace with an AC. This gives us (you were over on points o.O!) some points to play with. We'll add another squad of Vets with Demos. This gives us 1890pts so let's get another LRBT and shave a Chimera from the Demo vets. This gives us:<br /><br />Company Command w/AC, Chimera<br /><br />2x 10x Vets w/3x melta, Chimera<br /><br />10x Vets w/3x melta, demolitions<br /><br />Platoon Command w/4x melta, Chimera<br /><br />3x 10x infantry platoon w/ AC<br />(1 w/commisar and meltagun)<br /><br />3x Vendetta<br /><br />Manticore<br /><br />LR Executioner<br /><br />2x LRBT<br /><br />1985 pts<br />11 tanks<br />71 infantry<br /><br />Major problem with this list is general lack of antipsy. Demo Vets go into Vendetta or take Command's Chimera. Command order your ACs (putting mguns on command makes this less likely, you want to order those ACs), Infantry bubble wraps the Russes/Manticore [and any chimeras that stay back] and vendettas play around.<br /><br />It's more streamlined than my proposed list but has a bit less firepower but more meltas flexibility. Doesn't have any extraneous points wasted unlike original though.<br /><br />Prefer?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-19056435442428024272010-03-03T02:12:55.486+11:002010-03-03T02:12:55.486+11:00I dnt kno kirby, i personally think my orignal lis...I dnt kno kirby, i personally think my orignal list is actually stronger.<br /><br />The vets dnt have a ride, so they have to be in the vendettas. What if i wanna use em as gun boats?<br /><br />And i do like execuioners, but at 380 ponts... <br />starting to look a little too point costly. <br /><br />You realise that u are paying 75 points for 3 heavy bolters in that retinue right? Worth it?<br /><br />So bassicly, where before i had 4 different melta units in chims and 3 vendettas, now i have either 2 melta units OR two vendettas... meh?<br /><br />I feel i really must be missing something, cause i normally feel very strongly about the lists u make?Kaneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-49993743899905303472010-03-02T20:57:11.775+11:002010-03-02T20:57:11.775+11:00Aye fair enough. I thought 100pts was a bit steep ...Aye fair enough. I thought 100pts was a bit steep for an Inq. with a psycannon but the only Inquisition codex I know well is WH so I assumed it was different. <br /><br />40pts then? Hmm. I still suggest dropping him in exchange for meltas for the infantry. The Lord's unit is pretty badass (as you mentioned) but I think the 40pter's contribution to its badassery is negligible at best. And he's an extra KP is you happen to land a KP mission.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-16570126671143336582010-03-02T19:00:06.366+11:002010-03-02T19:00:06.366+11:00The lone INQ is 40pts and he goes with the Inq Lor...The lone INQ is 40pts and he goes with the Inq Lord + Ret. That's 6 S6 and 9 S5 shots from the chimera + 3 S6 from the Chimera. Not too shabby with psy defense and DS defense as well.<br /><br />The thing with the IG army book is you can make so many competitive and efficient armies that trying to nail down the best one I think can be difficult. You could make a couple changes and have a completely different list (i.e. the suggested PBS change or drop out the Inq Lord + Inq & Manty and go for another Vendetta/Vet combo + expand the bubble, etc.). Your suggestion isn't a bad one (other than points off, Inq + Infantry platoon = 100 pts but instead of the Inq you could add some more meltas as you suggested) but I think once you have your core worked out for IG it comes down to preference (assuming you don't pick bad preferences). <br /><br />So basically we need to wait for Kaney to reply...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-19791191820649659512010-03-01T19:14:10.871+11:002010-03-01T19:14:10.871+11:00Not sure of the inquisitor's exact points (you...Not sure of the inquisitor's exact points (you said 100ish so I'm going off 100), but if you're trying for a tournament list you should drop him. 100pts will get you another squad of infantry with an AC and let all four Infantry squads buy themselves a meltagun. <br /><br />This way, they become better at bubblewrapping as they can better protect against tank shock and it gives them a tiny bit of extra shooting punch to boot. I understand they're sacrifical units but what would you have done with the lone inquisitor anyway?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com