tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post8467166820397957385..comments2024-03-10T21:35:32.778+11:00Comments on 3++ is the new black. | Kirb your enthusiasm!: Email in: Still Stressing about the Pod listAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-82339527132358843052010-08-20T14:41:07.163+10:002010-08-20T14:41:07.163+10:00"VT2 said...
Splitting your army into two ve..."VT2 said... <br />Splitting your army into two very distinct components - slow, vulnerable support somewhere, marine boyz elsewhere - isn't smart.<br /><br />If you're gonna go for deep strike, go all the way. Don't do the opponent's work for him.<br /><br />You have the option to bring your support in with the rest of your army, and should make use of it. <br />"<br /><br />"Auretious Taak said... <br />VT2, there is such thing as "synergy" you know. Many elements not necessarily obviously related, working together in concert to achieve a greater purpose then the sum of each individual part. Chuck in Suicide units and disruption...<br />"<br /><br />I'm disagreeing with what you are saying about DP armies only being viable as an all or nothing approach as well as with your statements of split distinctive elements and doing the work for your opponent. I'll endeavour to get an article written up in the next few days to expand on these points more directly.Auretious Taakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09261337221609987048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-53828074636472607992010-08-20T12:45:13.239+10:002010-08-20T12:45:13.239+10:00" VT2, there is such thing as "synerg..." VT2, there is such thing as "synergy" you know. Many elements not necessarily obviously related, working together in concert to achieve a greater purpose then the sum of each individual part. Chuck in Suicide units and disruption...you know what, I can write an article on this to demonstrate the points!"<br /><br />It all came out of nowhere, but yes, I did read them.<br /><br />I fail to see what anything you said had to do with anthing I said.VT2https://www.blogger.com/profile/13922615677851541327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-27770801713674307732010-08-20T11:45:49.554+10:002010-08-20T11:45:49.554+10:00Actually read my comments instead of looking and a...Actually read my comments instead of looking and acting like a tool.Auretious Taakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09261337221609987048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-33148816908143713792010-08-20T11:08:12.799+10:002010-08-20T11:08:12.799+10:00What are you talking about?
Why would this need s...What are you talking about?<br /><br />Why would this need suicidal melta when it has sternguard squads, dreads, and 'speeders dropping?<br /><br />Come back when you're not drunk, please.VT2https://www.blogger.com/profile/13922615677851541327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-16622911738490003882010-08-20T10:36:35.159+10:002010-08-20T10:36:35.159+10:00VT2, there is such thing as "synergy" yo...VT2, there is such thing as "synergy" you know. Many elements not necessarily obviously related, working together in concert to achieve a greater purpose then the sum of each individual part. Chuck in Suicide units and disruption...you know what, I can write an article on this to demonstrate the points!Auretious Taakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09261337221609987048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-71984589297281996942010-08-19T23:55:54.287+10:002010-08-19T23:55:54.287+10:00Splitting your army into two very distinct compone...Splitting your army into two very distinct components - slow, vulnerable support somewhere, marine boyz elsewhere - isn't smart.<br /><br />If you're gonna go for deep strike, go all the way. Don't do the opponent's work for him.<br /><br />You have the option to bring your support in with the rest of your army, and should make use of it.VT2https://www.blogger.com/profile/13922615677851541327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-33287755853898452622010-08-19T22:02:22.064+10:002010-08-19T22:02:22.064+10:00I'm gonna disagree with VT2 and echo some of K...I'm gonna disagree with VT2 and echo some of Kirby's thoughts based off of my own experiences running a highly mobile with DP support Space Wolf list at 1,750pts. Now, your approach is reasonable but what you fail to see is that you can run a strong pod army that is dual purpose with the pods being used to provide in your face threats whilst you have a long range support base already on the board, or moving in from your first turn. <br /><br />The key to such a list is balance and survivability.<br /><br /> pair of podding in dreads into your opponents face means they have to use resources to deal with the buggers, but you can be even more of an arse and fork out the points to run them both as venerable dreads, only ever re-rolling destroyed/explosion results as anything else keeps them in the fight and a threat in your opponents face from the get go providing crucial distraction potential. Now, don't overlook a strong firebase on the ground either. a pair of auto-las preds for example gives more armoured support which can gradually push up in support and help bust armour. <br /><br />...I'm about to get keyboard face so will sop right now, and get some sleep as the response isn't forming properly. Find a balance of on the board unis and firebase to start with as well as the drop pod elements, 3 or 5 pods, ditch the assault marines, they aren't too great as a whole and the points can be better spent elsewhere. A Librarian on bike packing vortex of doom and gate of infinity and who is also an epistolary is an interesting choice of support character whereas Kantor in this list is so so. Being able to teleport himself and units around the field at will and move 12 and unleash that swish str 10 blast shot is useful as. Perhaps run him with 2 or 3 Attack Bikes with Multi-melta's for a dedicated warp in/out melta charge of fun, group. :)<br /><br /><br />Running with the Sternguard approach, taking a pair of Multi-melta's in the squad means thatAuretious Taakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09261337221609987048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-92172080211853427592010-08-19T20:28:37.399+10:002010-08-19T20:28:37.399+10:00Pure pod or bust.
It's like chaos demons. You&...Pure pod or bust.<br />It's like chaos demons. You're gonna deep strike, so might as well accept that.<br /><br />Mister Kantor does pretty much nothing in the above list.<br />If you want pods, you want a master of the forge. Heavy support dreads in pods, and lots of sternguard with heavy flamers and melta goodness, landspeeders, mandatory tactical squads - that's it.<br /><br />You don't have to pod in to take the offense, you know.<br />You can castle up somewhere important on the table, and taunt him to come to you.VT2https://www.blogger.com/profile/13922615677851541327noreply@blogger.com