tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post8497233130117938016..comments2024-03-10T21:35:32.778+11:00Comments on 3++ is the new black. | Kirb your enthusiasm!: Armies in 5th: Chaos Space Marines Part 2: Anti-tankAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-81647944236689052162010-09-05T04:00:03.679+10:002010-09-05T04:00:03.679+10:00AbusePuppy described the crux of it. The "fi...AbusePuppy described the crux of it. The "fire arc" of a walker's weapons is indeed 45 degrees. This can matter to any walker because if it is immobilized there is no way to shoot something outside of that arc, as a walker *must* rotate to face its target when shooting, but immobilization prevents vehicles from rotating (it does not specify in which phase).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-39592592300664133752010-08-22T04:13:45.747+10:002010-08-22T04:13:45.747+10:00Walkers actually don't have a 360 fire arc; th...Walkers actually don't have a 360 fire arc; they explicitly have a particular facing, unlike infantry. The question is really whether fire arcs are the same thing as vision arcs.AbusePuppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07413248837734103198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-20309504388435076522010-08-22T00:16:57.502+10:002010-08-22T00:16:57.502+10:00Yes Taak, very correct. Pivot on the spot etc does...Yes Taak, very correct. Pivot on the spot etc doesn't count as moving, and the dread's fire frenzy rule even states they pivot on the spot to target the nearest thing, so ouch my bad. golden rule, read the rulebook yourself and don't listen to blog advice ;)<br />cheersUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14434382459126453054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-53602837171117501022010-08-20T13:10:17.640+10:002010-08-20T13:10:17.640+10:00Yeah, and i said most people don't play it lik...Yeah, and i said most people don't play it like that.<br /><br />Stop stalking me around the blog, please. It's unnerving.VT2https://www.blogger.com/profile/13922615677851541327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-90634747572186604292010-08-20T12:34:12.473+10:002010-08-20T12:34:12.473+10:00"Borkai said...
@VT2 do you march stuff in t..."Borkai said... <br />@VT2 do you march stuff in the very small front arc of fire of your dreads? that is unwise."<br /><br />Check out the rules for Walkers and LoS mate. 360 degree field of fire iirc.Auretious Taakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09261337221609987048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-8825065161189696872010-08-20T07:13:52.615+10:002010-08-20T07:13:52.615+10:00I want my chaos marines mercenaries back :'(
...I want my chaos marines mercenaries back :'(<br /><br />Stopped playing chaos after the first game.<br />Only the lord, Ramiel, remains of my army.VT2https://www.blogger.com/profile/13922615677851541327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-85337537699956922332010-08-20T07:11:00.073+10:002010-08-20T07:11:00.073+10:00lol mad-doc.
In regards to Terminators/Dreads; LR...lol mad-doc.<br /><br />In regards to Terminators/Dreads; LR are bad and expensive. Godhammers with real PotMS are bad and Chaos ones are worse so steer well away from them. Taking sacrifical melta as termicide is fine but your army list is much weaker in midfield which Dreads/Chosen add to. Sure Dreads aren't the most reliable fire platforms but 3 of them not clumped (so a single blocker can't stop them) provides some decently reliable anti-tank as they move up-field and some real combat oomph.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-89763459683235682262010-08-20T04:04:04.691+10:002010-08-20T04:04:04.691+10:00"how the heck to pop all that razorspam out t..."how the heck to pop all that razorspam out there" <br />Play a real Space Marine Codex. :)mad-dochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04029994064667588456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-285655904998335392010-08-20T00:04:23.178+10:002010-08-20T00:04:23.178+10:00The majority of people don't play dreads like ...The majority of people don't play dreads like they're supposed to be played.<br /><br />Even if they don't end up shooting your own stuff, they still run the risk of not shooting at all. Means you've paid 100 points for a multi-melta that won't do any shooting, but will instead do its very best to run within the opponent's meltagun range.<br /><br />Instead of all that, you can pay 105 points for three terminators with combi-meltas, and put excess points into a land raider for your berserkers.<br /><br />The terminators are cheaper than bikes and raptors, and give you something more. Much, much better option - which isn't saying much.VT2https://www.blogger.com/profile/13922615677851541327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-11956385513780035522010-08-19T22:20:49.163+10:002010-08-19T22:20:49.163+10:00@VT2 do you march stuff in the very small front ar...@VT2 do you march stuff in the very small front arc of fire of your dreads? that is unwise.<br /><br />I think it comes down to CSM bikes being your best bet for melta platforms that are sacrificial, they have high T, can speed boost etc and only cost 119 for 2 meltas, yeah that aints great economy, but what do you do when ur elites and heavy are filled?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14434382459126453054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-85936653657583637732010-08-19T20:35:34.582+10:002010-08-19T20:35:34.582+10:00Chaos has a lot in common with orks and eldar.
Fo...Chaos has a lot in common with orks and eldar.<br /><br />For some strange reason, people fear the 3-man terminator squads.<br />"Oh, noooooooo! They've got...9 power weapon attacks on the charge!"<br /><br />There are two benefits in taking terminators over dreads.<br />Terminators don't shoot your own stuff. Terminators let you take a bad land raider without using obliterator slots. You need these for your berserkers in larger games.VT2https://www.blogger.com/profile/13922615677851541327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-53463411199940206482010-08-19T20:34:01.999+10:002010-08-19T20:34:01.999+10:00Agreed -- obliterators are tried and tested units ...Agreed -- obliterators are tried and tested units that are excellent in the anti-tank role. I'm more than happy to give up my converted predator for obliterators in the heavy support slot :)jabberjabberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15314798958920326898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-47819291302605749012010-08-19T15:57:25.937+10:002010-08-19T15:57:25.937+10:00I like your analysis kirby, good article. You do p...I like your analysis kirby, good article. You do point out what Im having trouble with in my Chaos army, how the heck to pop all that razorspam out there.Kevinmcd28https://www.blogger.com/profile/06915604908609700895noreply@blogger.com