tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post1428525475221757882..comments2024-03-10T21:35:32.778+11:00Comments on 3++ is the new black. | Kirb your enthusiasm!: Armies in 5th: Tau Part 6: SummaryAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-37856712208901409432010-09-08T18:05:53.623+10:002010-09-08T18:05:53.623+10:00I'll write up a general post about that Roger ...I'll write up a general post about that Roger this week sometime (in relation to all armies). Can apply it to Tau and if need further assistance let me know.<br /><br />Glad you've enjoyed the articles.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-74963511868184947982010-09-08T08:16:38.783+10:002010-09-08T08:16:38.783+10:00I've been totting for here, reading a lot of g...I've been totting for here, reading a lot of great and useful articles, specially those concerning TAU, but i'm surprised that none of them covers objective grabbing/holding. 2/3 of games are about holding objectives, wich Tau are some ill-suited for. Also it seems difficult with only one scoring unit (FW),surviving the late game...<br />What about some tips about objective holding with TAU?Roger Campàhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09935600866895433289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-20346537242276180712010-07-16T14:02:38.153+10:002010-07-16T14:02:38.153+10:00At 2000 pts, not a fan as you lose a lot of anti-i...At 2000 pts, not a fan as you lose a lot of anti-infantry and defenses. Whilst you'll be popping all tanks early, most Tau armies do this anyway and you don't have enough firepower to drop all the infantry coming at you. Against foot based lists like Jumpers you'll also have a hard time.<br /><br />As an upgrade to 2.5k, sounds good.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-21551592195299007812010-07-16T02:36:17.101+10:002010-07-16T02:36:17.101+10:00What do you think about 9 broadsides?
Broadsides ...What do you think about 9 broadsides?<br /><br />Broadsides x3 w/TA's, Team leader W/HW-Drone Control 2 shield drones and target lock?<br />840pts for 3 squads<br /><br />I would say drop the piranhas and with the other 2 hammerheads gone this only cost 10 more points. If you can't take down the armor with 9 TL-railguns that hit on 3's then with that bad of dice your going to lose anyways and being able to block with the piranhas wouldn't make any difference.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03514284126631896073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-35739491721888867732010-07-02T17:16:15.825+10:002010-07-02T17:16:15.825+10:00Nope but I know how 40k works, isn't that nice...Nope but I know how 40k works, isn't that nice Anon?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-43062763498024501012010-07-02T13:53:26.898+10:002010-07-02T13:53:26.898+10:00Are you a fanboi of Stelek?Are you a fanboi of Stelek?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-77811653330083295732010-02-24T04:53:05.566+11:002010-02-24T04:53:05.566+11:00I agree with KirbyI agree with KirbyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-38516926617342481042010-02-23T10:44:58.863+11:002010-02-23T10:44:58.863+11:00Sure John.
@1750 points I'd immediately say t...Sure John.<br /><br />@1750 points I'd immediately say the 6 PF and up the other PF to 8 just because you have that many less guns.<br /><br />I agree the alternate list isn't as good but with the extra FW fish you'll find objective missions where you're not wiping your enemyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-63066814890407607092010-02-23T07:50:42.838+11:002010-02-23T07:50:42.838+11:00Totally off topic, but would you be up for a Tyran...Totally off topic, but would you be up for a Tyranid list review/critique if I emailed you a list I've been working on?GWvsJohnhttp://www.carydolan.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-17820014442870394432010-02-23T04:14:56.291+11:002010-02-23T04:14:56.291+11:00Nice alternative list, however I can see that both...Nice alternative list, however I can see that both the anti-tank (9 down to 6 AP1 weapons) and the kroot defense is a lot less.<br /><br />I'm trim pts to get the 3rd broadside back (eg. stripping the devilfish upgrades together with the spare pts).<br /><br />Also is the second unit of fire warriors worth it. If the 4th unit of troops is useful I prefer 10 kroot for 10 more pts. Even without a 4th troop choice to carry the 2nd devilfish can still be used for:<br />1) delaying tactics like the pihranas<br />2) picking up the small kroot unit if it's not needed to delay an assault<br />3) contesting objectives<br />4) being a reserve if the first devilfish is destroyed<br /><br />I only play 1750 pt games, so I'm wondering what to lose to fit in pihranas in my list; what do you think would be better to lose: Either 1 broadside and 1 fireknife or losing one of my two units of 6 pathfinders (incl their devilfish) ?<br /><br />RathstarRathstarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08799690336241322474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-40340182502060014772010-02-23T00:26:26.583+11:002010-02-23T00:26:26.583+11:00Glad you enjoyed them Rathstar.
In regards to fis...Glad you enjoyed them Rathstar.<br /><br />In regards to fish upgrades, the 120 pt "Warfish" gives a very good torrent platform with 7 S5 BS4 shots on the move (and also doesn't count as 2 KP but we don't really care about that). If you don't run SMS you certainly don't need the rest bar D-pods but it becomes much more defensive in its use but 7 S5 shots is nothing to sneer at.<br /><br />With the second PF unit you really need another 6 man FW squad to make it scoring but as I mentioned in my PF article it does come down to wanting PF or Piranhas. At lower point levels more markerlights is worse as you don't have enough guns to take advantage of it. The trade-off at 2k points is improving twice as many guns or having 2 more fusion guns threaten and be able to block another unit.<br /><br />IMO being able to block another unit is very important (or against a Horde army which according to Warseer is the bane of Tau..wtf? you can block 2/3 of their army with correct spacing). Rarely do you see single LRs with termies so being able to block two raiders becomes more important. The fact that the Tau army has so many guns outside of the FA slot also means not being able to raise BS or remove cover for twice as many guns isn't huge. <br /><br />Again though if you can fit in 6 FW for that second fish it certainly isn't a bad list. Here's an example:<br /><br />HQ -<br />Shas’el w/Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Multi-tracker, HW target lock<br /><br />Elites -<br />Crisis x3 w/Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Multi-tracker<br /><br />Crisis x3 w/Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Multi-tracker<br /><br />Crisis x3 w/Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Multi-tracker<br /><br />Troops -<br />Fire Warriors x6<br /><br />Fire Warriors x6<br /><br />Kroot x10<br /><br />Kroot x10<br />Hounds x3<br /><br />Fast Attack -<br />Pathfinders x8<br />Devilfish w/SMS, Multi-tracker, Disruption Pods, Targeting Array<br /><br />Pathfinders x8<br />Devilfish w/SMS, Multi-tracker, Disruption Pods, Targeting Array<br /><br />Piranhas x2 w/Fusion Blasters, Targeting Array, 1 Disruption Pod<br /><br />Heavy Support -<br />Broadsides x2 w/Advanced Stablisation System, Team Leader w/hard-wired Drone controller, 2 shield drones & hard-wired TL<br /><br />Hammerhead w/Railgun, SMS, Multi-tracker, Disruption Pod<br /><br />Hammerhead w/Railgun, SMS, Multi-tracker, Disruption Pod<br /><br />Total: 1985<br />12 suits (+2 drones)<br />52 infantry<br />6 tanks<br /><br />More to your liking? 15 pts to play with.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07693773850422698445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-600589111118264680.post-65767268073236416942010-02-23T00:16:00.020+11:002010-02-23T00:16:00.020+11:00Really good set of articles on the Tau, it's a...Really good set of articles on the Tau, it's a shame you've finished them. I suppose other armies need a help too :)<br /><br />I'm still to try out pihranas, so my comments may change after I use them, but I thought a second unit of pathfinders would help more than a second pihrana squadron, just the fact the it splits the markerlights up into 2 units.<br /><br />I'm also surpirsed at the upgrades on the devilfish, cutting back to just a disruption pod would allow you to increase the kroot back to what they were, improving the defense line.<br /><br />My personally favorite would be to drop the devilfish upgrades (apart from the d.pod), add 2 kroot hounds to the small squad, and you'd still have pts to change a pihrana sqradron to a 2nd unit of pathfinders (8 plus fish with disruption pod).<br /><br />Are these ideas worthwhile ?<br /><br />RathstarRathstarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08799690336241322474noreply@blogger.com