My Megaforce came in today so I've been busy spray painting and putting first loads of paint on my new tanks (btw if anyone would like to buy a Tac squad or Assault squad I have one of each up for sale which I don't need from the box) so won't be doing the Tau summary today. Rather I've been batting this idea around to see if I can make a Hybrid calvary list for SW. Let's see what you think.
I obviously want to start out 3x3 TW units. I'll keep them setup like I did before with a Thunderhammer and meltabomb. This clocks in at 185 per unit for 555. Trying to make this more wolfy I'll run 3 Lone Wolves w/TDA, Chainfist, Storm Shield and 2x puppies. These are 105 each for 315. Lone Wolves are super survivable and can dish out some hurt to vehicles and MCs whilst the wolves up the overall number of attacks for hordes and provide some extra wounds.
I'm already at 870 points but have a good assault core but only have Troop and Heavy Support choices left for mech. I also need some ranged anti-tank to keep my oppnent's head down so I'll put in 3x5 LF units w/4 missiles each and a Rhino. These are 150 each for 450 each and give me three empty chasis' so I'll put two groups of IST x5 w/2meltaguns in there for 140 and 10 man GH w/2 meltaguns and MotW for 165. This leaves with the following:
LW w/TDA, SS, Chainfist, 2x Wolves
LW w/TDA, SS, Chainfist, 2x Wolves
LW w/TDA, SS, Chainfist, 2x Wolves
10x GH w/2 meltaguns, MotW
5x IST w/2meltaguns
5x IST w/2meltaguns
3x TW w/TH, meltabomb
3x TW w/TH, meltabomb
3x TW w/TH, meltabomb
5x LF w/4 ML, rhino
5x LF w/4 ML, rhino
5x LF w/4 ML, rhino
For 1620 points and I'm still short on HQ and Troops so going to be over looks like.
Let's add two Rune Priests both with Chooser and Living Lightning and one with Saga of the Beastslayer/Tempest and the other with Murderous Hurricane. That's 230 pts so we've only got 150 points left.
A full 10 man GH squad w/2 mguns, MotW and Rhino will put us 50 points over so let's drop the wolves from the LW leaving us at 1990 but we've only got 4 vehicles. So let's drop a LF pack and give a Rhino to the other GH squad we have giving us 125 points to play with.
I could take another small GH squad and use it as a bunker for my RP but I still think 5 vehicles isn't enough saturation and my melta will be stranded midfield. So I'll drop two of the LWs and add in two Rifleman dreads leaving me with 60 points with the following:
RP w/Saga of the Beastslayer, Living Lightning, Tempest, Chooser of the Slain
RP w/Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane, Chooser of the Slain
Dread w/2x TLAC
Dread w/2x TLAC
LW w/TDA, Chaintfist, SS
10x GH w/2mguns, MotW, Rhino
10x GH w/2mguns, MotW, Rhino
5x IST w/2mguns
5x IST w/2mguns
3x TW w/TH, mbombs
3x TW w/TH, mbombs
3x TW w/TH, mbombs
5x LF w/4 ML, rhino
5x LF w/4 ML, rhino
For 1940 points so I still have room to play but still not really happy with the list so am going to leave it for now and see what I can come up with but if anyone has some thoughts on it would love to hear them.
Kirb your enthusiasm!
"...generalship should be informing list building." - Sir Biscuit
Thursday, February 18, 2010
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Lots of dakka and choppy, I like.
My Cav list is all foot, Logan and cheapo WG (4 PAWG, 1 cyclone), TWC, LW and a RP. Alternatively, swap Logan for a Lord on a TW and use GH/Fangs.
I figured 3-4 Rhinos ain't gonna cut it, so I just went for bodies (GH) or cheap mobile firepower (WG) to support the TWC.
Aye I'm thinking 3rd Dread will do nicely but I can't see those Rhinos advancing too much. I think I need some playtesting and see what happens.
In comparison to the Mech spam marines I use I'm gaining combat prowess and a minor improvement in long-range support for increased close-combat efficiency and psy support.
Problem with 2 RPs for me atm is against an Eldar list they aren't happy at all and I think my TW are relying too much on the Rhinos in intial setups...
Anyways will plop in the 3rd Rifle dread and maybe a banner each on the GHs though to alleviate my double RP concerns I could stay with the double Dread/LW idea and go for the WL...
Ok had a trial game today. It wasn't against a very good player (I mean rule failures through and through, Terminators do not have 2W...).
I kept the LW (but with PFist), added banners, and took a small LF squad w/2 MLs though I think the extra Dread might be better but I'd like to squeeze out another LF squad if I could.
Anyways, the firepower was pretty impressive (10 ML, 4 TL ACs, 2 LLs) with a good midfield presence. I still find the TWs don't excel in a hybrid army so I think a pure Mech or a pure Calvary list would be better. If I could get 6 Dreads I think I'd like the list more and use puppies as screens but I'd have the same problem Orks have with AV14.
Overall I think I still need to tweak it but it's a solid idea but certainly not up there with the really top teir lists.
How about dropping a Rune Priest and adding more Long Fangs? They don't have to have a rhino either since there is noone to ride in it... So 5 ML Long Fangs. And you could add more ML to the other LFs and also give the Lone Wolf some Wolves...
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