Email in: incorporating Terminators in Coteaz GK list

Thursday, August 18, 2011

Email in: incorporating Terminators in Coteaz GK list

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"Hi Kirby,
I would like to have your opinion on something. You see, I have build a GK list that I feel could have potential, but it is not using any terminators. I really like the terminator models and also like their scare factor and cc potential. So my question is, looking at my list, do you see a way to incorporate them in my list at 1500, that would make the list better, and not worst? I feel like I must take too much out to put the termies.

Here is my list:

GK 1500pts

Coteaz

5x Purifiers (2 halberds, 1 hammer, 2 psycannon) + psyback
5x purifiers (3 halberds, 2 psycannon) + psyback

3x servitors (3 multimelta) + chimera
3x servitors (3 multimelta) + chimera
3x servitors (3 multimelta) + chimera
5x GKSS (1 psycannon) + rhino
5x GKSS (1 psycannon) + psyback
5x GKSS (1 Psycannon, 1 hammer) + psyback

1x RifleDread
1x RifleDread

Thanks
Stephane"

Why three Servitor squads with MM and a single Inquisitor? If you take a bunch of squads with Heavy Bolters I think it's an okay choice for babysitting objectives - you don't really care if they don't fire. MMs though? Less so, so I'd be looking to change those. I think at 1500 points though you're going to struggle to put GKT into a list like this. You can drop all the Servitor/Chimera combinations and get 255 points, enough for a 5-man GKT squad and then use higher points levels to plunk in some Henchmen units/more Terminators/another Psyfledread.

You're not really maximising Coteaz though, which is fine. By himself he's 100 points of utility awesomeness but replacing the GKSS with small Acolyte squads in Razorbacks is also a viable option and this frees up a lot of points to plug into other options such as Purifiers, Terminators, Interceptors, Dreadnoughts or Paladins you normally can't. So I'd give that serious consideration as well but as you have it setup currently is fine as well.

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crynn · 716 weeks ago

I run coteaz a GM and paladins at 1750 points and am having great successes with them. I have won 8 of 8 games. The paladins become scoring because of the GM if needs be and coteaz is as Kirby said 100 points of utility, and gives me cheap access to a scoring unit that is crazy in combat 5xdca and has 2 ablative wounds, 1 being a mystic that gives me perfect deepstrike and a banisher. All up they are 205pts with coteaz! so I get a hq with many nifty tricks, a scoring unit, a unit that beats TH/SS convincingly in combat, perfect deepstrike and almost an auto win verses any demon opponent.

Try fitting coteaz into a terminator list as apposed to fitting termiantors into a coteaz list.

Regards,
Crynn

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Stephane · 716 weeks ago

Thanks for the input! I knew that having only one inquisitor can means that the MM don't get fire half the time, but since they are free upgrade on a scoring unit, I though that even if they don't fire, it is not a big deal, but if they do, it is a nice addition. And I get to fire the chimera too. Any Squad I remove in that list to put termies make the number of vehicules drop and I am afraid I won't have enough hulls to present as target If I remove 2-3 of them. I donèt know if 5 termies can compensate for that. Another thing is by dropping the MMs, I don't know if my anti mech will be enough, even thou I'll have 8 psycannons + psyfledreads. And then I'll probably have to switch Coteaz to something more usefull.

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Stephane · 716 weeks ago

What about keeping the same list but instead of 3 servitors squads, I would have 1 squad of 3 MM in a chimera, and 1 squad of 5dca+2crusader in a chimera?

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spaguatyrine · 716 weeks ago

Take out a strike squad and psyback and drop 1 MMelta servitor unit 4 your termies. Strike squads suck anyways compared to the other options anyways. The termies are scoring and will cause more damage in CC. You could also unmount a Chimera and move them forward in that.

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Stephane · 716 weeks ago

hmm so
Coteaz
5 purifier + psyback
5 purifier + psyback
3 MM servitors + chimera
3 MM servitors + chimera
5 GKSS + psyback
5 GKSS + psyback
5 termies
2 psyfledread

Yeah, I like it. Could work.

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Stephane · 716 weeks ago

or
Coteaz
5 purifier + rhino
5 purifier + rhino
3 MM servitor + chimera
5 dca + 2 crusade + rhino
5 GKSS + rhino
5 GKSS + rhino
5 temies
2 psyfledreads

Lack of psyback but gain CC potential.

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Stephane · 716 weeks ago

Ok I have tried to fiddle the points around and here is what I think I'll try this weekend. Let me know what you think:

Coteaz
5x Purifiers ( 2 halberd, 2 psycannons, 1 hammer) + rhino
5x Purifiers ( 2 psycannons, 1 hammer) + rhino
3x Servitors with MM + chimera
5x dca + psyback
5x GKSS (psycannon) + psyback
5x GKSS (psycannon) + psyback
5x Terminators ( 4 halberds, 1 hammer, 1 psycannon)
2x Psyfledreads

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Prometheus 101p · 716 weeks ago

I hate the little MM servitor turrets. Stellek is a big fan of those, and it doesn't make any sense. Threat range is exactly 12" no more againts heavy armor and 24" against light....but it's completely static.

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Karvala · 716 weeks ago

The problem with the servitor units isn't the immobility, it's the unreliability of the mindlock. Getting warrior acolytes with meltaguns is a better option for additional melta shots, or if all you want is cheap scoring then barebones acolytes (scoring + nothing else) or acolytes with stormbolters (scoring + additional anti-infantry shooting) are better choices.