More Dark Eldar...more!? & Venom conversion [c. 1998]

Thursday, October 21, 2010

More Dark Eldar...more!? & Venom conversion [c. 1998]

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One of my biggest annoyances with GW with the new DE codex was a lack of models. There are so many new units and all of the old stuff is pretty crap and they only released a handful of new boxed sets? Now maybe I live under a rock but a second wave has already been released and is up for pre-order. Who knows if they will add more (and quickly) such as the Venom, Beasts and Scourges but it's nice to know people won't be madly converting and proxying everything for the moment... So here's a few pics (how awesome is the webway portal!?) and also a pic of my very old converted Vyper for which I did back when VDR was allowed (1999?). Pretty bad paint quality but you get the gist of what a Venom could look like with a bit of work. I did this when I was young so pretty sure one can find a better conversion but it at least gives you some ideas.

First off the new DE models which include Hellions, Urien (expensive Haemonculus special character), the webway portal seen above, Mandrakes and the Ravager!

And then here's the pics of the dodgy painted and converted 'Venom' to give ideas to people.

And them Chumby went and showed everyone this (what an asshole and way to make my old ass Venom look crapper!):

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Vinsanity · 755 weeks ago

Lol puts your venom to shame ;) gw better bring out another wave of de releases, perhaps new venom, bombers and scourges as well as CotA retinue... I'd expect another wave in the first half of next year...

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Kirby 118p · 755 weeks ago

Since we're still waiting on PBS, Hydras, TWC, Tervgions, Tyrannofexes, Harpies, Stormravens, etc.... ya doubt it :P

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Apathyman · 755 weeks ago

I expect a tyranid wave earlier (the tevigon/tyrranofex kit, which almost every list needs at least one of, is still MIA), but consider that most IG lists don't run a PBS (and sanctioned psykers are around on the secondary market, etc) and hydras do exist (in forgeworld form *shudder*).

I don't think any army has as many missing models from the "core" (ie, stuff that can count as troops, or that troops need) as much as the dark eldar. In addition, unlike most new releases, there aren't any old models left for purchase. So I wouldn't expect to wait too long (IE, more than maybe a year, year and a half) for wave 2. fighter/bomber kit? unlikely for a long time, but I don't think we'll be converting venoms for the next 5 years.

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AMMacBride · 755 weeks ago

You really like the repackaged Vortex Grenade? Sorry, Anything I can recreate in 10 minutes with a styrofoam ball doesn't seem that cool to me.

Other than that though, I'm really looking forward to when these models hit the shelves.

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Kirby 118p · 755 weeks ago

I'm easy to please =D and suck at freehand. Would I buy one? No lol but doesn't stop it from looking good ^^.

The Hellions look like good fun to play around with but shame they only come in 5 man boxes :( .

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Marshal_Wilhelm 61p · 755 weeks ago

Hey squishy face, I just thought of a name for your BA Dread Pod list as I was linking it to B&C.
Blood Drops ❣

I know right? It's A-Mazing!

That one was on the house ;)

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abusepuppy 121p · 755 weeks ago

Blood Drops: I am totally using that.

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Dezzo · 755 weeks ago

an inverted bowl might probably be better

no cutting involved

and you can use it for snacks later. ;-)

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chumbalaya 79p · 755 weeks ago

Snacks are very important.

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youitis 33p · 755 weeks ago

Snacks for commorragh!!!!

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AMMacBride · 755 weeks ago

I recind my statement. A bowl would be much better.

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chumbalaya 79p · 755 weeks ago

Hooray for stealing your thunder!

I do like your conversion though.

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Matt Varnish · 755 weeks ago

I love the "Saturday Night Fever" Disco Floor show look of those 2 Venoms at the bottom. Great thing Harlequin's can't even use them as DedicatedTransports... fail GW.

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Cyklown 51p · 755 weeks ago

They were so busy making sure that Harlequins continued to be bad with their magical copy and paste fu that they missed the idea of giving Harlies the transports that they were the first people to get access to. Classy.

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Bro_Lo 82p · 755 weeks ago

Apparently detailing is there to be painted over. I jest. Nice conversion, but gotta say Chumby's are looking very dapper.

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Sorrowshard · 755 weeks ago

Man , those venoms are pretty sweet , anyone know how the are put together ? Tut ? with some of the new parts added they should be ok, hopefully wont be too big next to the current raider .

I fully agree on the lack of models with this release, I doub we are going to see much variety in peoples armies for a while, no venoms ? heavy support is empty of choice, guess i'll take ravagers then .......

Need a large wave two pronto, its currently putting me off really making a proper start on the DE

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Kirby 118p · 755 weeks ago

& waiting for an FAQ :P.

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thralkhan · 755 weeks ago

What else is new with GW? How old was the Dark Eldar codex? And they never made a Decapitator model. Let's look at some of the other codexes: Tyranids...where's almost a half dozen models for that book? Blood Angels; we don't have to mention the Storm Raven. Space Wolves; where's the thunderwolf cavalry? How about Warriors of Chaos? I haven't seen any models for Valkia, Vilitch, Kholek, Festus, or a warshrine. And for those few people who play Beasts of Chaos, I'm sure they'd appreciate some models for their units.

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thralkhan · 755 weeks ago

By the way, I just found your site a few days ago and love it! I'm looking forward to the new DE codex. They've expanded it so it's not as limited as the previous edition, which I played back in 1999-2000 when I first started playing. For those with Eldar experience, I think their scalpel just got sharper, but I don't think they'll be an unbeatable army as I feel they'll die in droves from bolter, las, and shuriken fire.

Great site, keep it up.

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VT2 79p · 755 weeks ago

Feel no pain and 5th edition cover makes small-arms pretty impotent versus dismounted dark eldar.

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thralkhan · 755 weeks ago

I believe DE have a save of 6+ right? So bolters, cats, shootas, etc, that have any type of AP value wouldn't give them a save, so FNP would only work if in close combat with basic weapons not if getting shot at. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Kirby 118p · 755 weeks ago

Generally 5+ but some models have better or worse. FNP is only denied if the weapon is double strength (i.e. S6 for most DE), ignores saves at all times (i.e. power weapons, rending) or AP1/2. So if a T3/5+ model gets hit by an AP5 weapon, it will not get its armor save, will get its cover save and still gets FNP. If that weapon was S6 AP5, no FNP.

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thralkhan · 755 weeks ago

FNP has always been a rule that got me confused at times. Not to beat this subject up, but here's a scenario: DE warriors are out in the open and shot up by bolters. The bolters will kill them outright with no FNP saves, right? Now, if they were in cover, under the same situation, then they'd get a FNP save, right?

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abusepuppy 121p · 755 weeks ago

Wrong. FNP save can't be taken against (and we're quoting the relevant section of the rule, there's obviously more) wounds "against which no armor save can ever be taken." Just because one particular unit can't take it's armor save in one situation does not prevent FNP from working- only wounds which ALWAYS negate armor save, no matter what- such as Dangerous Terrain, Power Weapons, the Doom of Malan'tai's aura, etc.

AP1 and AP2 weapons disallow FNP- no other AP value, no matter what armor you wear, will do so on its own. (The weapon's strength or other rules may do so, however. A Battle Cannon's AP of 3 does not stop Incubi from getting FNP saves, but its Strength of 8 does.)

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thralkhan · 755 weeks ago

Cool, thanks for clearing that up. I'll leave it at that and not draw this out any longer.

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VT2 79p · 755 weeks ago

Venoms are supposed to be out before christmas.
We'll see if they mix things up instead, but I hope they release it. Don't wanna buy more raiders than I can use for ravagers.

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thralkhan · 755 weeks ago

I thought GW was gearing more towards plastic models. If so, then why are they making Incubi metal? I get it with special characters, but squads??? arghh!!!!

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abusepuppy 121p · 755 weeks ago

Elites tend to come in metal. Sternguard, Vanguard, Hive Guard, Stormtroopers, etc; there are exceptions, but a lot of them come in metal.

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VT2 79p · 755 weeks ago

They had to get them out quickly in time for the initial release, and Jes decided to change their design halfway into development.

Also, ultra elite unit. People don't often buy more than three boxes, and expect very high level of detail. Modern plastic design's great, but it's still not on par with modern metal casting.

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Dezzo · 755 weeks ago

it occurred to me that the humble multi-laser from the Chimera is S6...

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Kirby 118p · 755 weeks ago

So is most of the firepower from Tau and Eldar armies but the majority of armies anti-tank is generally S7+. Tau and Eldar have the awesome advantage of S6 anti-infantry :P.