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Thursday, January 27, 2011

Email in: 2500 point Blood Angels Mech List


"Hello, I know you get lots of request for list help, but could you take a look at this list. It is a 2500 point list for Blood Angels. I mostly play against various Marines, Crons, IG, and rarely Nids/Tau. I also see Ravenwing and Deathwing armies. Most people around here play foot heavy or Drop Pod marines so I don't see much armor, but I want to build a "take all comers" list anyway. I tend to play Highly Mechanized lists and I wanted to include some DoA support units, but don't know how effective that would be. Here is the list.

HQ Mephiston 250
HQ Libby- Rage and (strength 10 power) 100
2xHQ Honor Guard(5)- Jump Packs, 3x MG, 1x Fist 440
3xTR Assault Sq(5)- MG, PWN w/ Razorback-TWL ASS-C 540
EL Sanguinary Guard(5)- 1xFist, Banner, 260
1x Infernus, 1x Plasma Pistol
3x FA Baal Pred- Extra Armor, Heavy Bolter Sponsons 510
TWL Assault Cannon, Storm Bolter
3X HS Predator- Autocannon, Lascannon Sponsons 390

I believe that is right at 2490. I would move up with the Baals and have the RAS behind with the Preds dispersed in between. I would move Mephiston up with the Armor to block line of site until he was in range. I would DoA the Honor Guard and Sang Guard as needed. I do see a Land Raider and Leman
Russes so the Honor Guard would target armor. I would also use them to get Priest Support where I needed it and drop the Honor Guard nearby or use them to counter charge.

I worry about not having enough Troops and if I drop the San Guard and Honor Guard I would probably get 3x more RAZ or maybe I could put the Honor Guard in Rhinos and drop the Sang Guard for get another RAZ and Priest. I do not really want to try and keep the RAZ in their Razorbacks the whole game. I want them to be able to competently assault depleted squads. I might need to shave some points to put a Priest in that group, but I should be able to get coverage with the Honor Guard. I could definitely shave some points off the Honor Guard. I also thought about adding a TAC squad or two but not sure how well that would work.

Do you have any suggestions for this list? Is this a viable strategy or should drop the extra armor on the Baals and keep them back and lead with the RAZ? If I did that I would probably have to drop the Honor guard and Sang Guard and get more RAZ. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks."


I don't like the HG or SG being the only foot units in the list, especially since you have only three scoring options. Extra Armor on the Baals is also not really needed and I'd take either the Libby or Mephiston. Whilst both do different things (utility compared to combat) one or the other IMO. We'll leave in Mephiston as he adds some excellent combat prowess and by putting the HG into Rhinos and dropping the SG, Baals to AC/HB and Libby we get 435 points. This is enough for 3x ASM RBack squads if you run them with meltagun/infernous pistol and TL-heavy flamer. Or you could run 2x ASM RBack squads with the same setup as in your list with meltagun, power weapon and TL-AC RBack. You would then have enough points to add in infernous pistols on all of your ASM squads or potentially grab a Priest with some upgrades. You could also add in HKM to a lot of your vehicles for a first turn barrage of S8 weapons.

The type of list you are making would benefit the most from the TL-AC RBack squads IMO so I'd aim for five of those each with a power weapon, meltgun and infernous pistol to spend your extra points. You'd then be sending 13 tanks at your opponent all capable of firing on the move and packed with some decent combat ability and lots of meltaguns.

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hey, just wanted to point out that the sanguinary guard point cost is wrong, its suppose to be 240
oh wait nvm i just read the rest, haha srry bout that
Lightning. claws. are. the. same. cost. as. power. weapons.

USE THEM.
Ok. I was already think that was not enough Scoring units. If I drop the Libby then I will not be able two HG. If I drop the Libby then I will also have to drop one of the HG. So drop HG, SG, and extra armor from Baals, giving me about 625 points. Add two ASM with Ass_C Razorback and change HG to Rhino. Gives me:

HQ Mephiston250

1xHQ Honor Guard (5)- Rhino,3x MG, 1x Fist220

5xTR Assault Sq(5)- MG, PWN w/ Razorback-TWL ASS-C 900

3x FA Baal Pred- Heavy Bolter Sponsons, TWL Ass_C, Storm Bolter 465

3X HS Predator- Autocannon, Lascannon Sponsons390
Continued from above:
That comes out two about 2225. I can drop Mephiston and get two Libbys and up to two HG in Rhinos or I can stick with Mephiston and get two or three Priests and upgrade the HG to an Assault Cannon Razorback. I like the option of putting Infernus Pistol on SGT/Priests, but it seems like the upgrade is two expensive for what it provides. I could also get a Furioso Dreadnaught or two which would give me more vehicle saturation and some high strength close combat, but that might slow down the Army to much. I could run just behind all the razor backs to deal with things they cant or give the ASM the ability to counter charge by tying up units.

That is kind of the three options I am looking at 2x HG and 2x Libbys, 2 Dreads, or several priests and squad upgrades or HKM.s What do you think would be the better option?
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I forgot about the 2x HG and libby/meph my bad. I think I'd grab another ASM RBack squad which leaves you just under 100 points to play with. From there add two Priests, drop the PFist from the HG squad and give them LClaws to go with the ASM.
So now we are looking at something like this:

HQ Mephiston 250

1xHQ Honor Guard (5)- Rhino,3x MG, 1x LC 210

6xTR Assault Sq(5)- MG, PWN w/ Razorback-TWL ASS-C 1080

EL SANG Priest (2) 100

3x FA Baal Pred- Heavy Bolter Sponsons, TWL Ass_C, Storm Bolter 465

3X HS Predator- Autocannon, Lascannon Sponsons 390

That comes out to 2495. Maybe I throw a Melta Bomb on someone. Thanks. What do you think?
Pretty nice looking list. The one thing I'd consider is that you have a TON of anti-infantry firepower. 9 twin-linked assault cannons, autocannons, plus guys on foot that can also attack depleted infantry units. Because of that and because you only have three sources of long-ranged firepower, I might consider swapping out one or two of the Razorback's assault cannons for either a twin-linked lascannon or the las-plas combo. If you have to it back with one to hold an objective, might as well give them a gun to still be able to shoot effectively at range. Plus with twin-linked lascannon (and being able to move 12" and shoot) its easy to line up side armor shots when the opportunity presents itself.

Paired with that thought, I'd probably go a different route with the Baal Predators. I like just the basic Baal with twin-linked assault cannons. For me, the Baals are always roaming 12", looking for opportunities to hit side armor, catch a unit outside of cover, etc. Heavy Bolters is useful for dealing with hordes, but it limits you to cruising 6" per turn effectively. Yes they become boxes if they lose a gun, but then they shift roles to either being moving cover for the rest of the army, or i use them as guided missiles to ram. Both valid, in my opinion. Cutting out the heavy bolters/storm bolters would free up 120 points. The other thing I like with having multiple Baals + Razorbacks with Assault Cannons is giving one Baal a Flamestorm Cannon. Draws a lot of attention because no one wants their MEQs auto-dying on a 2+ roll.
Crap. Forgot this was in the linked articles at the bottom of another article, not off the main page. Necro-post for the fail. :-(

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