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Thursday, April 14, 2011

Dark Eldar Codex Review: Part 11 - Elites Part 1


Elites is a really tough slot because of one unit and one unit alone: Trueborn. They bring such incredible anti-tank and anti-infantry potential that everything else in the slot has to be matched up against them when building an army. When not taking them you have to consider the opportunity cost of doing so. That being said Dark Eldar do have some excellent choices in Elites and since so much anti-tank and anti-infantry potential can be found in every Force Organisation slot in the Dark Eldar codex, Trueborn aren't an auto-include nor the only good choice. Let's look at what else we have.

Since there are so many Elites we have to cover we've split this review into two parts. Part 1 looks at Incubi, Gortesques and Mandrakes whilst Part 2 will look at Trueborn, Bloodbrides and Harlequins. Wracks aren't covered. Never ever ever take them as Elites. There is literally no reason. Jeez. They are Troops.

Incubi

The good version of Banshees. High natural Initiative means they strike ahead of anything except other Eldar and special characters and S4 power weapons mean they chop up most things pretty effectively, especially with two attacks each. They're also tough enough to shrug off a fair number of attacks, but remember that T3 makes them more vulnerable to just being torrented than Marines are, though a pain token mitigates this a lot. They are pricey and with T3 and no invulnerable save aren't going to survive protracted combats or be the rock your army is looking for. Do NOT send them into a fight where they can be engaged by a Dreadnought or Monstrous Creature, as they have no real way to handle them.



Due to their high number of attacks, WS and initiative 5, large squads of them (more than five or six) is probably overkill against most targets. This is the trick to getting the most out of this unit, managing unit size. Too large is going to generate a ton of overkill which generates inefficiency and leaves you out high and dry after most combats. You can however lose a couple Incubi and still be effective. Smaller squads are less likely to suffer overkill but rather stay locked in combat and protected against shooting but losing a couple members can devastate the squads ability to damage opponents. You then also have to consider the addition of an Archon who is generally a combat beast as well. Archons add the very important Phantasm Grenade Launcher which allows Incubi to assault into cover and not get punched in the face before they can swing. In the end squad sizes of around 5-6 + potential Archons are a good middle ground that doesn't break the bank. Obviously these guys also need a transport (Raider) and if they can get an early pain token or two, will just start ripping through units and be pretty durable to boot.

The Klaivex and his various upgrades are just not really worth it, as none of them really bring anything new to the unit and are less efficient than just adding another body. Remember Incubi have Fleet which makes them highly mobile and very capable of getting assaults off out of their transports.

If you're looking for a combat squad which packs a hard punch and is going to kill units rather than wearing them down or tarpitting (such as Wyches) or torrenting/Rending (such as Beastmasters) than Incubi are your guys. They aren't cheap and will be a big target to your opponent early so getting them early FNP is very important or overwhelming your opponent with threatening targets. No ranged options or any anti-tank hurts them as they are very uni-dimensional but they do that role very well.

Grotesques

Often overlooked, Grotestues are actually incredibly difficult to bring down with most guns, as T5/W3/FNP is very annoying. They have a crappy save (6+) so cover is their friend and unfortunately this slows them down. They aren't fleet and don't have move through cover and take up extra space in Transports so you aren't going to be carrying around large squads. Webway Portals can help with their movement restrictions but even then, no Fleet hampers them. The biggest drawback for Grotesques though is requiring an Independent Character to 'control' them and make sure they don't go nuts. This is an annoying little tax you have to include into your army list and can limit your ability to move pain tokens amongst units. That being said, without a character the terrible leadership of Grotesques would make them a useless unit.

Grotesques put out pretty respectable damage, although nothing totally overwhelming; mostly, they are incredibly hard to take out and rely on grinding the opponent down. Furious Charge raises their strength an impressive 6. Grotesques really start to shine when you add Urien to the army, however, as you can make them +1Str for +5pts, which is very much worth it. S7 on the charge and chance of even more pain tokens? Yessir, I think I like it. Urien overall isn't pretty hot as covered before though it really is the only use for him. Adding other characters such as a Succubus or Archon to give this unit reliably killing power kills two birds with one stone but you're really looking for this unit to absorb a lot of firepower before going down.

Aberration upgrade isn't worth it, as it takes your Ld from "abominable" to "horrible" and none of the CC weapons are actually particularly useful (power weapons; please?). The Liquifier is nice, though. Taking a dedicated transport is sort of awkward, as you can only fit four of them (and an IC) at max into a Raider but as discussed before, they are slow as hell without some sort of a ride. Using them in a Webway army + Urien is probably the best way to run them though a couple squads as hard units to take down which can also punch crap in combat in Raiders works well also. They are expensive however (more-so than Incubi) so large squads are prohibitive points wiseand small squads don't really  have the amount of attacks to scare people but rather just annoy them so fitting them into your army can be difficult.

Mandrakes

Much maligned, actually not that bad; once they have a pain token they are a force to be reckoned with. Getting that pain token however can be annoying. You can start a Haemonculous with them (which means no Infiltrating; no thank) or jet one forward in a transport and deposit it such that they meet up. A Chronos passing them one is also not impossible or simply using ICs to move pain tokens around your army as usual. Once they have their token... they're kinda beastly. 3+ cover, 5++ (for Flamers/CC) and FNP, making them incredibly difficult to bring down. Moreover, their blast is pretty decent and they can charge in after using it- they're S4 naturally, so they can put out reasonably decent damage. The keys are getting them that pain token and making sure you utilize BOTH their melee and shooting abilities.

One of the main reasons to bring Mandrakes however is infiltrate. In an army full of mobility and unprecedented fire and move capacity, there is very little scout and infiltrate based units. Mandrakes fit this role perfectly, able to deploy ahead of the army and due to their decent ability to both shoot and assault, delay and disrupt opponents. They really do need that pain token though to be really annoying and two obviously heightens this.

They aren't too expensive at just 15 points a model so a medium sized squad (5-7) is pretty cheap and adds some disruption and defenses. Problem is you can't take a transport with them which lowers your vehicle count and ability to max the FoC but does something in the army nothing else does (infiltrate). The Nightfiend really has no point outside of upgrading Leadership for Mandrakes. It's a nice addition, particularly against tank shocks, but has no options himself to make the unit more deadly in combat.

Overall, Mandrakes play a very specific role through the ability to infiltrate. Their shooting is pretty decent and backed up by assault can finish a lot of units off but are really an annoyance to your opponent which delays them getting to your lines or disrupts theirs. If you don't want/need anything like this or don't have enough anti-tank in the rest of the army, don't go Mandrakes. They are probably more viable in a foot based list, whether it's Hybrid or not, due to the lack of transport options as well.


Conclusions

The Incubi are the clear winners here as they do what they do so well. Grotesques really need Urien to be viable for S7 on the charge and even then, need IC babysitters and more than likely a Webway Portal (and some better units can come out of the Webway than them in terms of combat potential). Whilst they do inflict wounds, getting the model numbers to inflict a lot of wounds is very pricey though they do absorb damage quite well with FNP and cover. Realistically, these guys should be left home as they are just too fiddly though if you are desperate to take them, look to an Urien/Webway based list. Mandrakes are not as bad as many people have envisioned as they do something unique in the codex (infiltrate) but without a pain token, are pretty expensive for a utility/disruptive unit. With that pain token though they become a very viable disruptive unit but lack the ability to take a transport.

Overall, none of these choices can really fulfil dualistic roles. Grotesques and Incubi can do so with their transports to an extent but in the end, these units have specialised roles and are taken to complete them. The rest of you army then has to shore up any lose in anti-tank 'lost' in this way.

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The Klaivex boosts the squad's Ld, so is not COMPLETELY useless. That being said, an Incubi squad really should always have an Archon with PGL with it, or else bad things will happen to them when they try charging through cover, so even the Ld boost is not generally that useful.

Speaking of which, did GW REALLY have to bone the poor Incubi by not giving them grenades? They could easily have given their tormentor helms that capacity.

Othewise, fully concur that the Klaivex's upgrades are crap. 20 pts for +1S? Really?
3 replies · active 729 weeks ago
Maybe GW wanted to give incubi a section in the FOC but took away grenades so they could make the incubi less effective without old reliable (incubus archon retinue)
Still is a dumb decision, because you really need grenades of some sort to be truely effective as an assault unit.
Err, pressed Submit too quickly. It's stupid because it puts a damper on taking multiple Incubi units, as one archon is already expensive enough, taking 2 is crazy.
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Joe Two Crows · 729 weeks ago

Thanks for the analysis, as usual your writing is clear and concise!

One pick; since you begin by using the Trueborn as the go-to unit, I would have liked to have seen a point by point comparison.

regards!
Joe
Grotesques I like simply because they give me tons of conversion potential. I like to run a few of them, and when you give them an Abberation and another a liquifier gun, you can allocate wounds around making them even more difficult to get rid of.
I think running a Succubus with them is the best choice for their IC, for a few reasons.
1) She is cheaper than an Archon but still gives them good Leadership.
2) Despite her cheap cost, she is pretty surviveable with her 4++ and stupid initiative value.
3) She can bring a Shardnet/impaler to further make the unit unkillable, or just chew through the enemy with an agonizer.
4) Haemonculii should be donating their pain tokens to Wyches/big Warrior squads, and although you can move them to the Grotesques once the game begins, that's still an opportunity for them to roll a 1 and explode.
Would it be correct to say that Mandrakes fill a similar role to Hellions w/Baron, but slower moving, not troops, and losing a Trueborn slot?
1 reply · active 729 weeks ago
So, terrible? Yeah, pretty much they are in a strictly competitive sense. They don't even really count in my book. Cool fluff, love 'em or hate 'em models, bad gameplay mechanics. Every other unit in elites is viable, just not compared to Blastborn squads.
These have been really great to read. Keep em coming Kirby!! =P
Good article Kirby! As the Incubi you have pictured are mine I figured I'd chime in - It's been my experience that 5 Incubi is definitely not enough, but a full 9-10 can be a little too expensive in games under 1850. As a retinue for an Archon though, they're hard as nails. The Archon I usually attach to the unit doesn't have a PGL so I do have to be circumspect about charging units in cover, so I may have to re-think his wargear loadout a bit to make them a bit more flexible. I haven't forayed into using Grotesques or Mandrakes, but I'll have to give 'em a go. Keep up the awesome reviews, they're really good stuff!
1 reply · active 729 weeks ago
Heh, the only reason I have an Archon at all in my force is to give my Incubi the PGL. I'd totally drop him otherwise.
The problem with using Incubi as a Archon bodyguard is that suddenly you have gave your enemy his primary target. Relatively frail unit, flying around on a AV 10 open topped vehicles that is very expensive and very dangerous if it hits CC with full numbers.
1 reply · active 729 weeks ago
True but you can use this to your advantage by diverting fire away from your other units. Incubi may be relatively frail, but the rest of your army is even more frail.
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2 replies · active 686 weeks ago
I just saw this after replying to your other post but there have been many posts like this lately.

Aspects of 40k which aren't game related will be discussed because they are still part of the hobby and have happened here before. It's not like 3++ suddenly decided to do these things. Generally we get an e-mail (Swedish comp), someone says something (Vince's Night Lords) or someone just wants to bitch (VT2). They don't take up more than 10% of the overall post count so aren't really detracting from the message.

Regardless, thank you.
I agree, the 'review' articles are what brought me to this site to begin wtih and although they're not the only worthwhile reads here, they're the reason I come back.
I always play two small squads of incubi in raiders/venoms next to other raiders. That way the opponent has a harder time making target priority choices. If you field just one incubi unit, their raider WILL get downed turn 1.
On Grotesques: The 'champion' upgrade is pretty much worth it for wound allocation I think. You can do a small 3 man squad: 1 normal, 1 champ and 1 with liquifier. Let them join by a Heamonculus with Liquifier gun and some CC weapon and you're looking at a relatively cheap squad which can still take an enormous amount of shooting before going down. Double liqifier guns and the S6 when charging makes them usefull against quite some targets. Put them in a Raider of course.

Not saying this is all that good, but maybe worth considering.
1 reply · active 729 weeks ago
This is true and something we didn't mention but you do suffer from the small squad size and still being around 200 points all told with Raider.
Aberration /w Venom Blade 15 point upgrade, wound allocation (puts Aberration to 5 attacks base, venom blade is GAINED and adds to already combat weapon) then add 2+ to wound with re-roll on almost every model in the game, and those he doesn't he has 2+. Damn amazing for 15 points.

4x Grotesques (liquifier, aberration /w venom blade) + Haemi /w liquifier & Agonizer in Raider is a terror. This unit has averaged 2 units wipes and a tank destruction per game they have been in. As an added note even with heavy targeting I've only lost the unit 3 of 20 games (once to exploding).
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28... <-- Link to my Grotesque conversions.

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