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Saturday, May 21, 2011

Hobby: Pre-heresy Thousand Sons



Here's another Hobby related post from Gendoikari87.

So what codex?: Well this was a hard one. No codex would be perfect for the pre-heresy Thousand Sons. They.... well they aren't like any other chapter. They're sort of similar to other codex chapters...... and then again, they have and absurdly high rate of psykers. Not every marine in the Thousand Sons pre-heresy was a master psyker but we'll say a good bit were to say the least, as the geneseed itself seemed to guantee at lest some psychic ability. Heck they even had entire cults to one form or another, four in fact. So the army has to have access to psychic powers on the squad level. That narrows our possibilities down to one while still using loyalist chapters: Codex Grey Knights. Now this is not a perfect match but nothing would be. The Thousand Sons used standard bolters, not storm bolters and not EVERY marine had a force weapon, though I imagine a lot of the good psykers would. This will take some streches no matter how you do it, but I think Codex: Grey Knights works best. This being PRE-heresy, not a heresy army.



HQ
Grand Master [185][Master Crafted Nemesis force halberd]
Brother Captiain [150]

Elites

5 Paladins [400][Apothecary, Banner, MC psycannon ]

10 Purifiers [280][4 psycannons]

Troops
5 Grey Knight terminators [225][psycannon]

10 Grey Knights [250][psycannon, Rhino]

10 Grey Knights [250][psycannon, Rhino]

Heavy Support

Land Raider [260][psybolt ammunition]

Total: 2000

Stand Ins:

Psycannons: first off this goes for any proxy list I make with grey knights. Psycannons are assault cannons. or at least what assault cannons should be. but I might be a gatling gun fanboy, i'll admit that. mmmmmmm..... the humm of the Gau-8 .... mmmmmmmmm

Grand Master: What, all this talk about how psychc the thousand sons were and you make an HQ a mastery level 1 brother captain? one word answer here. Yes, as powerful as a lot of their psykers are, I could think of no better HQ than a Corvidae Cult Master. A pre cog of undeniable power. With initiative 6 thanks to the halberd and grand strategy, I think they do fine representing the intel gatherers of the Thousand sons. Oh and theres the other main reason I chose them; Psychic communion.

Brother captain: read above but as an athenean they are there for telepathy and assisting the corvidae

Paladins: so gendo, you're putting in a shiny new object from the codex because it's shiny. Well no, the Paladins are the Pavoni cult members. Able not only heal them selves but augment themselves to how ever they see fit. They can also boil the blood in their opponents as well. Particularily nasty opponents.

Purifiers: again not just putting in the most powerful units in the codex, but an actually calculated decision. And this one was easy. The Purifiers rules are a flexible bunch that can fit a lot of units. Electro Priests and Pyrae Cult members are the first off the top of my head. More on the Electro Priests in another article. For today all you need to know is that these are the Pyrae and yes they sould have a techpriest with them.

Grey Knight Terminators: these will represent Raptora cult members able to project shields around themselves, able to use them both offensively and defensively


Grey Knights Strike Squads: These are joe blow Thousand Sons with no real particular cult. Generalist units for you to practice getting the paint scheme ready.

In closing: These won't be perfect translations to table top but they will be close enough, mostly representing an elite of the cults army.

Modeling: You'll want to use a lot of egyptian motifs, scibor miniatures as well as max mini offer great conversion bits and nice kopesh's for converting your force weapons. remember the symbols of the different cults and have fun ( corvidae: Black Ravens head, Pyrae: scarlet phoenix, Pavoni: a colorful feather)

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I had looked into this as the conversion possibilities seemed so fun.

I had thought to use a librarian as the leader and with all the nice +physical stuff he could do like MoH or QS, he'd make a perfect Pavoni. The Purifiers seemed no-brainers as the Pyrae, what with all the Human Torch action going on. I actually thought the Strike Squads could be used as a good melting pot of the cults thanks to normal Grey Knight abilities and Warp Quake; You could have Athanean and Corvidae reading minds and futures telling where the enemy units were going to land, Raptora kinetically charging the bolt-shells, Pavoni weaving a squad-spell to increase the strength of their unit.

I really liked the idea of adding cult symbols to the models as well. From what I could find from all the books they were: Athanean - Third Eye Symbol, Corvidae - Black Raven Head, Pavoni - Colorful Feather, Pyrae - Scarlet Phoenix, Raptora - Outline of a body with a Kine Shield overhead; Like the LucasArts symbol I'd guess.

I wasn't going to touch Scibor's models though. Forge World was going to be my bet. MK IV armor seemed perfect with a little green sculpted scarab put on the central chest-vent. Add a little plasticard prong on the helmet if you want to truly match up with the Heresy drawings.

I had planned to run a Libby with his 8 Purifiers in a Stormraven (De-teched a bit to be a Stormhawk or Stormbird), 3x10 SS, and 2 dread's counting as Cataphracts. I had eventually planned to fill out more points with non-marines as the Prospero Spire Guard.

Sadly it fell to the wayside when I just couldn't really enjoy any combination of GK army list. Whenever the next Chaos Codex comes out maybe I'll be able to give it a real go then.
I like it sounds really cool.

Its things like this that inspire me to want to do a pre-heresy "not really optimised really fluffy list" - but need to get through all my projects + DE first lol.

We going to get progress pics? Would love to see some.
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gendoikari87 · 728 weeks ago

Progress pics only come with the admech article i'm afraid.
I have a buddy doing Pre-Heresy Thousand Sons using a lot of the plastic bits from the new Tomb Kings. Looks really good, lotta scarabs and such...
just have to ask....what model is that in the intro pic because it is mind-blowing!

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