"HQ: Mephiston: 250
T1: Assault Squad (melta gun) with AssCan Razorback (HK missile): 175
T2: Assault Squad (melta gun) with AssCan Razorback (HK missile): 175
T3: Assault Squad (melta gun) with AssCan Razorback (HK missile): 175
T4: Assault Squad (melta gun) with AssCan Razorback (HK missile): 175
FA: Baal w/ HB sponsons & HK missile: 155
FA: Baal w/ HB sponsons & HK missile: 155
FA: Baal w/ HB sponsons & HK missile: 155
HS: Pred w/ LC Sponsons & HK missile: 145
HS: Pred w/ LC Sponsons & HK missile: 145
HS: Pred w/ LC Sponsons & HK missile: 145
So what do you think? Too many HKs? Is Mephy out of place in this one? Will I get in my own way with 7 tanks potentially obstructing the LC sponsons on the preds?"
Another BA list from Jason... I'm not a fan of having Meph & AssCannons on the RBacks in this type of list because of the way it plays. You point out one of the problems in regards to LC sponsons from your Preds. So I think you've got two options. If you want the 24" sort of BA mech list backed up by Mephiston, replace the ACLC Preds w/Riflemen Dreads. This gives you continious firepower from the back of the field which isn't going to get it's LoS blocked easily compared to the ACLC Pred.
The other option is to really stick with the whole MEQ Eldar type list. Drop Mephiston for a libby or 2 in the RBacks and make the AC RBacks LasPlas. This allows your Baals to sit up front and use their AV13 to protect you and allows you stay at a longer range and still be effective. The ACLC Preds are also capable of running flank attacks as you don't need the extra chassis' for cover saves, etc.
I prefer the second option as Mephiston is sort of an ace in thehole type utility in the first list. He's good when he gets to combat and is a great insurance against combat but he's only one guy and against a combat list he'll get dragged down anyway. The 2nd list has more synergy because of this and dropping the sponsons off the Baals fits in a 5th RBack squad, too.
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Riflemen Dreads also covers a major gap in AC spam, namely dealing meaningful damage to AV12/13 targets, which even the TLAC struggles against.
I sorta like the feel of the LasPlas Razors + AssCan Baals. I'm not as familiar with this kind of list, though- how do the Preds fit into it? Since the whole force wants to be moving 12", are the Las Sponsons worth it, or should you be trying something else?
Meph really doesn't seem to have a place in either list, though; he can't hide inside a metal box and he doesn't give you survivability the way a Libby does. He's a great countercharge unit, but a Libby Dread seems like it would be more useful if you want that.
Mephy gives a shooty mech list some punch, but you can almost fit in 2 new units (or a Libby and HG) instead.
I like the Riflemen + Assault Cannon set up myself. BA have the mobility to quickly close and start lighting shit up.
I have to agree with everybody with regards to the place of Meph in the list. He is a moster, but I think he works better in a 'rock' list as he adds another rock for a cheaper-than-most-rocks price (500 points including transport).
In a MSU/shooty list, I just don't think he fits as he has no real support and his equivalent cost in units will provide more in this list over 5+ turns of a game.
I have been debating dropping Mephy for a plain librarian (I do think Meph is loads of fun though). If I did that and switched to las/plas razors (dropping the HKs entirely), I could add two suicide melta squads as follows:
HQ: Librarian
T: RAS 5 (melta) in Las/Plas Razor
T: RAS 5 (melta) in Las/Plas Razor
T: RAS 5 (melta) in Las/Plas Razor
T: RAS 5 (melta) in Las/Plas Razor
T: RAS 5 (melta/infernus) with jump packs
T: RAS 5 (melta/infernus) with jump packs
FA: Baal w/ HB sponsons
FA: Baal w/ HB sponsons
FA: Baal w/ HB sponsons
HS: Pred w/ LC Sponsons
HS: Pred w/ LC Sponsons
HS: Pred w/ LC Sponsons
What do you guys think about this?
I might make the 2 suicide melta units into another LasPlas squad. You should have extra points for mass HKs then or a double lib.
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