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Wednesday, April 13, 2011

Crazy Tournament...

"Dearest of pink Kirbatmen,

Ok, so here is my idea! I want to run a tournament around here, or at least get the ball rolling on one with other tournament organizers. I want to get any origional ideas you have heard, as well as get your opinion on the ideas that I have so far.

So, the basic premise is that you bring an army, any (legal) army that you want up to the alloted points amount (1500-1850, depending on who has what). You submit your list, and then all of the lists are put into a hat and you draw one out at random. Whatever list you get, that is what you play with! You obviously wouldn't play with your own, were it to come up. Other than that, it would be just like a regular tournament, with a few restrictions. Here are the ideas i have so far:

4 scoring troops minimum, 25 scoring bodies minimum
all chosen units must be able to enter play (no taking chaos spawn with no icons)
everything must be WYSIWYG (or comparable, for things like tervigons)
At the end, mark regular categories just like during a normal tournament. *This* part is where the real twist comes in- the winnings in a category are split between the person who won with the list, and the person who wrote the list. Now, would some hilarious matchups occur from this list? Absolutely. Will someone get stuck with the cybergrots list? Very possible.

It is meant to be refreshing, give you a chance to play something different, and still have fun. That said, it is still competitive by nature, although the randomness is to such a high degree that calling it anything but a hobby event would be madness.

God, this looks like something fester wrote. I might have to get myself checked out.

What do you think?

-abortedsoul"


*blinks* I think it's a great fun idea assuming the lists aren't crap ^^. I wouldn't put any restrictions on the armies though as it just gimps certain armies whilst other armies would find it easier to do. Just keep it 2 Troops and 1 HQ. My biggest issue though would be I wouldn't want someone using my army if I wasn't there. Call me distrustful but I can just hear it now... "I don't know what happened it just...shattered into a thousand pieces." Being the one running the thing I wouldn't be surprised if you  had a lot of yelling and screaming.

Anyway, putting this out there to see what others think. I'm non-plussed and TBH probably wouldn't attend unless I knew most of the attendees.

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wow...ummm, while the gameplay and such would be absolutely hysterical I think it would be logistically insolvent unless it was a private event in which everyone knew eachother. The potential fault arguments that could arise if someone broke another participant's model(s) would be a catastrophe. Fun idea though
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LordFancyPants · 729 weeks ago

This works better in a game store/ club where you know most everyone. No way am I letting some random person use my army at a tournament.
I think it could work, 5 or 10 dollar buy in, you get it back unless you break a model in which case the person who owned the model gets that money (that still might need tweaking as you might get people thinking its okay if they break things, which is horrible around certain gamers)

with this event you'd have to avoid any "cash" prizes, as in battle boxes and blisters are even too far. books, and trophies to keep it non competitive, and a max number of models in each army to keep it easier to keep track of

also a tag, or some type of card, system could easily be implimented to make sure no-one tries to steal someone else's army
Totally agree with Lordfancypants. I will never let some random person use my army without my eyes on him/her.

I know a store who have a bunch of sample armies(around 1,000 pts) for players to borrow and playtest though, so that might work and the lists should be very balanced also. You can paint most things with white undercoat and citadel wash to save time. Although, it's may be a big investment for a small shop.
I wouldn't even dream of attending a tournament like this. The thought of someone else doing as much as chipping my paint job makes me wretch. You have to bear in mind that any lost/damaged models are going to cause huge arguments, and there WILL be arguments. The potential for lost models is also higher than normal since the players are not familiar with the armies they are using (I know exactly how many models I need to pack away at the end of every game, so make sure that I don't leave any behind by mistake - these guys won't have that luxury).

The best alternative I could think of, would be for each player to submit a list of all the models they might want to use in advance (to a minimum value of 2000 points, for example). Then draw another player at random to write a 1500-point army from the master list. At least then each player will be using their own figures, though potentially in an unfamiliar configuration. Using own models = fewer arguments.

Your scoring method for the tournament could remain the same, but keep things simple and just use the standard Force Organisation Chart. It might be difficult trying to sell this concept - the last thing you need are more restrictions. Restrictions are bad. The FOC exists for a reason and there is no reason to try and invent your own. I rarely play 1500-point armies with 4 Troops choices. In fact I have to proxy/borrow models in order to field such an army: I own 2500 points of models and don't have 4 scoring Troops, but have finished 1st and 4th in the last two tournaments I attended.
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Paulochromis · 729 weeks ago

As to the model ownership issue, play it on Vassal.
Unfortunately, the rules say you can't play with your own army, and you get no kudos for your "army" winning, so everyone in their right mind puts in a completely crap army list, for someone else to deal with. Never going to work.
Thematic tournament, with grey proxies could work (same idea as in motor cars, with everyone having the same army).
Better yet, every round is two duplicate battles, 1st with your own army, second with your opponents.
I would never do this. Ever.
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abortedsoul · 729 weeks ago

People are so picky with their toys. What ever happened to your parents raising you to share? :D

I suppose something like this could work on vassal. I just thought gamers, who play with toys, would be less snively about their plastic mans. Never underestimate the jealously guarded neckbeard toys, I suppose.

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