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Tuesday, September 6, 2011

What Color is Your Skimmer? (Different Types of Wargamers)



Comparing, contrasting, and promoting different types of games and gamers is a common hobby here on the blogrolls and on the forums; in fact, if you want to get a ton of posts, there are few easier ways than to put up something about different styles of gaming, inflammatory or not, well-intentioned or not. But what are the different types of gamers? What do they care about? What brings them to the hobby? And how real are the distinctions? These are issues that aren't often discussed much but I think are well worth looking at.

First off, are the distinctions real? Well, yes and no- yes, because it's very true that everyone is interested to the hobby in different degrees and in different ways. What brings each individual into the hobby and how they choose to spend their time is unique and shaped by not only their interests but also their talents; some people simply aren't good at things, which tends to be a deterrent to deep involvement. Not an absolute barrier, but something of a hurdle of acceptance that must be clear. (I, for example, am a resoundingly mediocre painter; I'm not actually bad, but I generally don't have the patience for it to spend a long time on each and every identical model nor the knack for working quickly, so I leave most models at the "good enough" stage.) But, on the other hand, it is an exceedingly rare individual who is interested only in one area of the hobby- interest in one thing tends to breed interest in others. Someone who spends a lot of time study the lore may develop a desire to build a fluff-accurate tabletop force; falling in love with a particular unit may drive someone to customize them to really personalize them; and so on. "Pure" players do exist, but they are the exception, not the rule; we'll talk a bit more about this in their respective sections, below.

The big split, as I'm sure everyone knows, is the competitive vs. non-competitive groups; however, even here we run into a problem, because really this is just a "there are two kinds of people in the world" statement. "Non-competitive" isn't even a real type of player, it's just a lump category of everyone who isn't interested in playing competitively. Sometimes the term "casual" is used, but this also is a misnomer, as many of these players are fiercely dedicated to their own respective parts of the hobby. "Hobby player" is a label I've used in the past, but this also fails to capture anything meaningful about the group, as some segments of them may not be at all interested in traditional hobby activities such as converting and painting models. So what are they? They aren't anything, because the divide between competitive players and the imaginary non-competitive players is just that- imaginary. There is no "us and we" that needs to fight back against the terrible scourge of competitive play, just as there is no evil "them" that forces comp onto the clueless herds; chances are, of your circle of friends you know people on both sides of this imaginary divide that you talk to, game with, and like. It's only on the internet, where dividing into camps and getting angry at people thousands of miles away is basically a way of life, that such factions exist.

So what are the different things that draw people into the hobby? I'm going to try and spell out what I feel are some of the important boundaries, but realize that these are still imaginary- any given player is probably at least two or three of these types, even if you don't realize it.

Competitive


WHAT THEY ARE: The big one first. This is the guy who likes the game for the game- that is, he enjoys playing and he likes tinkering with his army. More than anything, though, he likes a tough fight, and that's why he plays with his army- he wants to get every ounce of fat cut out of it so he and someone else can have a really pull-down, slug-out match where they give it their all. The competitive player is happiest when they're fighting another good general that gives them a run for their money- winning is, of course, fun, but the objective is to try, to struggle to win, not the win in and of itself. Winning is the reward for the struggle, but it's a perfunctory reward, like the trophy at the end of a race- the real joy comes out of the struggle itself. Competitive players spend a lot of time talking comparisons, numbers, roles, tactics, etc- basically babbling about the rules of the game- because the rules are the framework through which all actions are defined, so understanding them means understanding what one is capable of in the game. Competitive players are always interested in improving things, be it their lists or their skill at playing, and for this reason will often argue minutia that others find trivial or pointless, but for them these incremental improvements can make a big difference when the game comes down to it, so they care very much. Competitive is actually one of the most common minor types for folks to have because everyone likes to win and practically everyone likes playing the game; if you've ever enjoyed a close victory (or loss!) or tinkered with your list to make it better, you've got a little bit of competitive player in you. Competitive players correspond to the MtG "Spike" archetype, for those that are familiar with that concept. A subcategory of competitive players focuses on making bizarre, off-the-wall armies and picking underused units, builds, and factions and doing the best he can with them- these are the "Johnnies" of MtG, but due to the respective differences of investment in the two games, such a focus tends to be less common in Warhammer.

WHAT THEY AREN'T: The jerk who always has to win at everything and always has to be right. There are, of course, competitive jerks, many of them who may be that guy, but that's not the definition of a competitive player, it's the "dark side" of this particular focus. They also aren't necessarily the guy with the grey army- that just is a lack of interest in painting, which can be practically any of the categories.

Painter


WHAT IT IS: This is the guy that has never played a game with grey plastic in his life and whose every model is uniquely detailed with twenty-seven different layers of shading. They may be a "real" artist outside of his interest in the game, or this may their only artistic outlet; both are similarly common. Regardless, the painter is interested in his art and probably owns more paints than you own models. Because so much of painting is a matter of technique that can't easily be discussed, because it is very much a matter of preference, painters may not always have as much of their craft to talk about with other players compared to other types, but few others can claim the same kind of impact on the tabletop. As perhaps the most painstaking and time-consuming aspects of the hobby the painter is often (quite rightfully) accorded quite a bit of respect for the hours they put into each model- but, by the same token, a painter's collection is likely to be smaller, overall, than anyone else's.

WHAT IT ISN'T: The modeler or fluffer, below. Some painters are happy to just paint what GW provides, and others are uninterested in the actual specifics of what the models they paint are supposed to represent and what the "correct" way to paint them is.

Modeler


WHAT IT IS: Perpetually covered in nicks, cuts, and bandages, the modeler probably doesn't even know what the actual model range looks like because they've never fielded one. Building something from one kit is practically blasphemy to the modeler- at the very least, one must add some additional bitz (collected over years or decades) to spice things up. Like the painter, the modeler spends most of their time at the table at home, not at the game store, so may or may not have as much of an investment in playing the game, but unlike their counterpart the modeler tends to be a relentless customer; modeling is the quicker part of the hobby side and also tends to have a high cost-per-creation. For this reason more than any other the modeler is limited in what they do by money. The modeler's joy is one of uniqueness; where a painter may take joy in the simple appearance of what they do, a modeler is almost always driven to do work outside the norm. Inspired by someone else, perhaps, but rarely something that has done much before.

WHAT IT ISN'T: The painter. Being very different kinds of work with very different skillsets, a good modeler may not be any good at painting (or vice versa.) While they may overlap more often than the other archetypes, they are by no means the same.

Fluffer


WHAT IT IS: Not that kind of fluffer, the one who cares about the history, art, and literature behind the game. Often eclipsed by the painter and modeler because they do not tend to create something impressive for the tabletop, none the less the fluffer knows just as much about their chosen field as any of the other specialists; you might not realize just where Space Marines originally came from or how many canon Craftworlds there are, but this guy probably does. Fluffers can easily slip entirely under the radar of the rest of the player base because much of what they do is passive and receptive, collecting information from a variety of sources. Competitive, modeling, and painting players do this too, of course, but that tends to be only a step in their progress, whereas it is often the entirety of the fluff player's interest. For those that it isn't the game store environment does not lend itself well to "Would you like to read my two hundred page opus on the Tau?"-type discussions, so any given person might be one without you ever knowing. Narrative play tends to be the only "active" draw for fluffers, since it is one of the few ways to combine the game and the story that tends to be the main interest. (It should be noted that, while I have mainly talked about fluff players in regards to writing, there are also art fluffers, though they are less common.)

WHAT IT ISN'T: Noticed by most people.

Social


WHAT IT IS: Often forgotten but always there, the social player is the person who plays the game not for the rules, the hobby, or the background but because they enjoy hanging out with folks. The social player probably didn't join the game until someone else convinced them to and shows up mostly for the same reason anyone does things with their friends. They may not have much system loyalty (unless other factors compel it), but tend to be among the most amiable of players, as their vested interest in the various aspects of the game is not as intense as the other types (and hence somewhat less likely to make them annoying.) They tend to be the "casual" players who enjoy the game, even if they don't focus on it, but that should not be taken to mean they aren't good at it or that they don't care; indeed, they may be very enthusiastic about chances to play, but not because of the rules or the hobby but because of the people- and, at the end of the day, a large portion of this game is about other people, so perhaps their choice of focus is less odd than one might assume at first glance.

WHAT IT ISN'T: More than any of the others, the social player is practically never without some other interest that keeps them sticking with the game, as 40K requires a large enough investment that no one who is truly casual would put enough work into it to actually be a part of the game.

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Again, these are only the "pure" types- far more commonly, you will see hybrids of two, three, or all of them in varying percentages. I, for example, have a major interest in competitive play (as you might guess), but with significant secondary touchstones in converting and, to a lesser degree, fluff. One of my friends, who has played since 2E, is first and foremost a painter, but also takes a major interest in the rules and strategies of the game, even if he doesn't necessarily like tournament play.

The real point of all of this was to illustrate that there are myriad ways to enjoy this game and that virtually everyone has enough in common with everyone else to play the game with them and have a good time. For all of the horror stories of awful human beings that circulate out there, there have only been a few people I have played against that I wouldn't want to play again (and even most of those could easily have been them simply having a bad day.) Your main focus may lay elsewhere from someone else's, perhaps quite some large ways distant, but chances are you two still share enough to play a game. Competitive players may want to see an end to this and hobby players no more of that, but we're all a part of this game and we all have rights to have our opinions heard; that doesn't mean we need to get frothing angry at one and another because all our opinions aren't the same.

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My skimmers are blue typhoons, Plastic grey Storm raven, and a red tau piranha.
oh wait... I think I missed the point of the article. ;D

While I got into the game for the Game, I've developed much talent and skills in the other areas. I love assembling and have slowly learned some modeling. I'm still working on painting. I can paint well, but it takes extreme focus and time to achieve a level equal to others.
"Fluffers can easily slip entirely under the radar of the rest of the player base because much of what they do is passive and receptive, collecting information from a variety of sources."

You are joking, right ? I suggest you spend some time in a Matthew Ward thread in one of the popular forums for starters. For seconds, I'd recommend posting in an Eldar thread on Warseer.
1 reply · active 708 weeks ago
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Nave Senrag · 708 weeks ago

For a more positive experience, Heresy's fluff district has quite a few fluff aficionados who aren't obnoxious jerkasses about it.
Grey with green, winged sword icons and smatterings of robed guys, something to do with Dark Angels and Space wolves... depends on how much sugar I've had during the day...

I'll be in the corner hiding from the zombies...

CK
Skimmers? What are these bizzare concepts you speak of? The Hive Mind has no need for these 'skimmers'...
...and then there are Ork players. :P
My skimmers are crimson from the blood of aliens and heretics. Scorched by planetfall on a thousand worlds. Their systems honed by an eternity of battle in the Emperor's name...
I come from RPGs (the tabletop kind, not the MMO kind or the grenade kind), so I'm fluffy by nature. I didn't really realize this until I had to come up with a good reason for walking a late-joining army onto a board in a group game, and someone called me on it. I'm an escapist by nature, so getting into the backstory, and understanding the commander/army's motivations, just makes the whole thing more "colorful" to me.

But I also love the painting, and I'm trying my hand at modeling. All these things just add to it for me. It's like doing lots of semi-unrelated things that come together for a beautiful whole. That said, I'm fairly new to 5th, and play Eldar, so that "beautiful whole" is usually getting my ass kicked by a razorback parking lot, or about a million Gants.

But that's why I'm on sites like this one. I want to be better at the game, and build better lists, even if they aren't fully optimized, at least I now know what balanced is, so I can deviate from there. I know how my army works, so I can screw up in more subtle ways than I have been so far. I like the game itself, and I'd like to get good at it, but it's probably the thing I'm into the least. That said, there's way less pricks playing the game than there were back in 2nd, at least around where I live.
I AM XENOS AND I DEFY YOUR ARCHETYPES!

Also, I only recognize one subset of 40k players...there's Xenos players (da kewl kidz, natch) and then there's...everybody else.
-_-
I'll be dealing with ...them. Soon.

I kinda think that most gamers are a mix of all the 'strains' you've listed here, Puppy. And I know I've gone through 'stages' where I've visited all of these- right now I'm kinda a 'social' type, f'rinstance.
In truth, all these 'differences' are merely nuances....but you forgot one group-

The 'Your Doing It Wrong' group. (tradmark SinSynn, cuz I might use that in a post. lol)
Fortunately they're not really dangerous, but they are quite vocal on the internetz :P

Good stuff as always, Puppy. Yer pieces always make me go 'hmmmmm....'
3 replies · active 707 weeks ago
They make you go what!?
It's alright, he cleans up afterwards.
I forgot...you guys don't have TV...or YouTube...or anything but poisonous snakes (and people that chase them) 'down under,' do you?
Arsenio Hall reference...there was even a song-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF2ayWcJfxo&ob...

Sigh...Aussies.....
;)
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Guestivus · 707 weeks ago

I like this, and I think more people could do with it.

A lot of the vitriol on the internet boils down to 'I don't like what that other chap is doing and I think it's my business to say otherwise' which is pretty much why I also hate tiny towns. :P

I mean, how many of us actually sit down to play/paint/model/chat background/hang out with people we actually don't like? Sure, there are leagues and tournaments and moving to a new area and all that, but in those cases you specifically know that you'll be playing against different people.

In the huge, huge majority of hobby interactions though, we generally find people we like. Then, of course, we get on the internet and pretend that some folks half a continent away are ruining our day.
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WestRider · 707 weeks ago

"A lot of the vitriol on the internet boils down to 'I don't like what that other chap is doing and I think it's my business to say otherwise' which is pretty much why I also hate tiny towns. :P "

Now think about people who are on the Internet because they live in tiny towns ;)

I seem to run across this sort of thing all the time in discussions of Music. So many times I've run into some variation of "I don't like it therefore it's bad therefore you're an idiot and probably an asshole if you do like it."
Well said, good Sir. Well said.
Protip:
If it hurts to type, you are a modeller.
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I am a modeller.

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Oww...
1 reply · active 707 weeks ago
Haha, my older brother does indeed have sore fingers from being a modeller. I will share this with him, he'll feel less 'unable' with others also having sore digits.
Here's a new type for you: the complainer. He complains about your army list, your choice of codex, the mission, his die rolls, your die rolls. His complaints are sometimes but not always dissipated by winning.

Once again a gamer classification article is interesting but falls flat. Personality category systems always have this problem, they don't recognize the complexity of individuals. "Are you a Virgo? It means X." (No it doesn't)

I am equal parts modeler, painter, and competitor. I enjoy the background story and have written a few 40k fiction stories. I socialize and hang out with gamers and non-gamers alike. What does that make me? Just me, not a member of a category.

There are a few "true to type" people out there but they must be in the minority. I have one friend who converts the hell out of his models but never picks up a paintbrush. Is he a modeler? He's also nuts about the fluff, socializing, and although relatively new he tries to build strong lists and plays to win. Another individual.

Fun read though.
2 replies · active 707 weeks ago
Agreed, these kinds of articles always have the issue that there's virtually no one who embodies a specific archetype, but it does help in that it offers a definition of some basic personality types so that you can read them, understand them, and see parts of yourself that relate to them... in theory anyway. Once the internet gets involved, lots of people tend to get defensive and think everyone's trying to say something about them lol
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Antebellum · 707 weeks ago

Puppy said multiple times throughout the article that there are very few 'pure category' people and that most people have a smattering of each or most categories.

As for your friend, Puppy specifically said the Modeler is not the Painter; it could be, but not always.
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DarthSquig · 707 weeks ago

I think you missed one WAAC players, or bullies, if you want. Completely different from competitive players, in that they enjoy smashing seal puppies most and foremost, they don't want to get better, they just want to humiliate others. Thankfully they are rare (at least here), but they exist. Shouldn't be confused with competitive gamers, easy to distinguish the two is that a competitive player would give you advise after a game, a waac player won't.

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