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Friday, October 14, 2011

British ETC Team Sign-up




As requested by Meg (aka Alex aka Killswitch) this has been posted in regards to the British ETC team and how to potentially become a part of it. They are trying for as much transparency as possible so BrotherLoring can focus all his anger on other teams ;). Meg promised me a Dark Eldar army to do this so if I don't get one I will give someone a hug if they remove him from the team.

Hi Everyone,

The interest for the ETC in the UK has been growing so much recently, with coverage on Rankings HQ, 40kuk and 11th Company, as well as general discussion on the forums and at tournaments, more and more people are aware of what the ETC is, and the best thing is more and more people want to get involved.
This year I have the great honour of being Captain for the English 40k team. In this thread I want to just go into a bit of detail how to apply for the English team, as well as what is expected from an ETC player.

The event this year is in Poland on the weekend 18/19 August 2012.

To compete at the ETC we take a team of 8 players, each using a different army, playing against some of the best players from all over Europe and beyond. Selecting a team is no easy task, as there are so many great players in the UK to choose from. To help ensure the best team is chosen we have a selection system in place, the system works as follows:

The Team Captain is on the Team.

He then picks two players from the top five of the Rankings. This selection for this was done on Friday (07/10/11).The two players chosen were Alex Harrison and Chris Green. So including myself this means that the players ranked 1st, 2nd and 3rd in the Rankings at the moment are all on the team this year.

These two players then form an advisory committee for the Captain; they help him to select the next two players, which must be selected from the top 16 in the Rankings by the 15/12/11.

Then the final three players can be selected from anywhere, they can feature in the Rankings, but equally they don’t have to be on the system at all. The last three players will be selected by the 31/01/12.

The aim of this selection system is to make it more transparent how you can get on to the English team, while still allowing the flexibility to pick the strongest team, especially taking into consideration the fact 8 different armies need to be played to a high level to compete.

If you are interested in applying to play on the Team then you will need to email me at

ETCUK@hotmail.co.uk In order to have a realistic chance to be selected for the team you should be:

• A regular tournament player on the UK scene
• Be English (Kirby is dumbstruck at this)
• Have a reasonable track record in tournaments
• If selected be willing to play any army, this is key considering how the ETC works.
• Be willing to take said army/race to events despite any detriment on rankings or personal glory
• Have the time to commit to playing practice games, partaking in discussions on an ETC forum, email and phone, keep up with all the ETC FAQs etc.
• Be able to spend around £600 – £1000 in the year on the ETC and associated events.
• Be able to attend the Home Nations event at the end of April at Maelstrom.
• Be a team player, able to put the result of the team ahead of your own personal result at the event.

I know it is a big commitment going for a place on the English team, but if you feel you can commit to the above list I really do recommend you email me, as in my opinion the ETC is the best 40k event of the year without question.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Thanks
Josh

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I do appreciate this and I think it's an important part of people understanding the ETC as a whole.

I can't say I 100% agree with the way the selection process works. There is too much subjective selection. Add this into the way tournament scoring works in the UK, then you're not necessarily selecting the best 8.

For example... Alex played at a tournament earlier this year. He had 3 wins, a draw and a loss. He came 7th. Another good friend had 4 wins and one loss and came 22nd. Does that sound right? Not to me. If this is how the rankings are created, then colour me unimpressed.

Out of interest, how long would it take me to get into the top 16 if I hadn't played any 'rankingsHQ' tournaments?If a long while... only 3 slots would be open to me.

Anyway, thanks for sharing the details, like I said, it's important for such details to be more widely broadcast if people want some recognition. I do however think there are massive flaws in the concept of selection and the tournament.
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Like.

As long as subjective scoring is in place for any of the events used to determine ranking spaces, the ranking will be, at best, inaccurate.
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Killswitch · 700 weeks ago

That was one event. the majority of events (like 95% of them) all use a win lose draw, with VPs to determine tie breakers format.
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Killswitch · 700 weeks ago

There will always be flaws in selection, but this was the decision which was made. This new way is to try it make it fair for those who go to tournaments and participate in rankings events, as well as everyone else who doesnt. It is different to having a selection comitee, which can be fairly biased.

I agree about the tourney I came 7th at, but that was a VP tournament as explained in the rules packs. My wins were very big (tables if not almost tables) so even with a loss (also a big vp), it wasnt too bad. The concept of it was you get certain vps for a draw & win ontop of what you earned, but I agree it doesn't work.

As for getting into the top 16, I would say you need to do well (top 10) at 3 big events. If this is not possible, try to attend GTs where the team will possibly be, interect and simply get involved with practise weekends and such. This way we get to know the player, see how well they play, and not just judge them on a few tourney wins, but as a player themselves.

Hope that answers your questions buddy.
Thats all well amd great...but where the hell is team Scotland's Captain hiding?
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skcuzzlebumm · 700 weeks ago

Here! ;)

As Alex says follow that link for details or otherwise go direct to www.teamscotland40k.freeforums.org , register and then send a pm to either myself or Timmaaa.

Neil
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Killswitch · 700 weeks ago

Follow this link for Team Scotland:
http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=9&a...
1 reply · active 700 weeks ago
Cheers.
One of the English vets plays primarily in the US, ja? How does 18th out of just under 2200 players compare to a ranking out of 1339, if you're evaluating when and if to draft Alex Fennell?
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Killswitch · 700 weeks ago

We don't take the US rankings into account for our team selection. Also, as far as the US is concerned, their Rankings system is not used in all events like in the UK. The majority of our competitive and larger GT events all induct into Rankings, whereas the US does not.
Ah. I can see that the degree of coverage certainly varies. Still, it would be hard to argue that the top-ranking players on our rankings aren't top players. At least if one were to take our ETC team as representative.
This is how the Swedish team does it. It is also based on our rankings table.

On January 31, the rankings that will form the basis for team selection is established.
The three top ranked players are asked if they want to be part of the team.
If any of them decline the next person on the rankings is asked and so on.
These three then select a captain.
The captain can either be one of the three, or any other player they deem
appropriate and in such case he becomes the fourth player on the team.
The captain is then the person who picks out the rest of the team.
In addition to the three top ranked players, five players are included in the team.
At least two of these players must be selected from the 10 best placed
players on the rankings and the other three can be chosen freely.
If the captain was not selected from those in the top 3 but is in the top 10,
he can of course be one of the two mandatory players from the top 10.
Otherwise, he is one of the three players chosen freely.
Again, if not enough people in the top 10 accepts, the No. 11 asked, and so on.

The entire selection process will be completed and the team announced on svenska40k.se March 31th at the latest.

So, top three on the rankings, plus two more from top ten and three players chosen freely.

Cheers!
This discussion is disappointingly civil.

Scrubs and bads play derphammer with smelly Europeans. ETC? More like GayTC.
6 replies · active 700 weeks ago
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Killswitch · 700 weeks ago

Well its more like WTC since the Aussies and americans, amongst other EU countries arn't involved, so you are right about the "ETC?" part :D
Nevermind THAT. I find it genuinely offensive that this article claims to refer to the "British" ETC team, when it is for the *ENGLISH* ETC team. Citizens of Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland are equally British.
I think that was Kirby's do-do, not Meg's.
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Killswitch · 700 weeks ago

Yes I did specifically state it was for England. The Aussies refer to us as Brits I guess :S

And I love how this meg thing is broadening to the public lol
I make things happen Meg.
I had to try and stir some shit...right? :P.

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