3++ is the new black. | Kirb your enthusiasm!: New Logo

Sunday, July 22, 2012

New Logo - Merchandise

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Okay guys, looks like we can do the 3++ in place of 3 pip dice so will get those order forms rolling shortly. Want to set it up at the same time for everything else though but we cannot use our old logo - too similar to Kirby for production purposes. Our good friend Goatboy has come up with this for us though:

We'd appreciate your thoughts & feedback on this and a big thanks to Goatboy for helping out again!

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Archnomad · 663 weeks ago

Make the skull on the cap a pink 3. :)

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tony · 663 weeks ago

ya im not a fan of the double skull... otherwise looks awesome

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Shadar_Logoth 92p · 663 weeks ago

I dig it. I really like the bi-lateral symmetry of the 3 pluses. I say replace the skull on the cap with a pink and black rainbow :) .

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Scuzgob 96p · 663 weeks ago

its not so "Nintendo will sue your face off" anymore!

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chris h. · 663 weeks ago

Have him do it again.

I say this for a few reasons. 1.) For over 6 years I designed tattoos in a local shop often times drawing for 8 hours a day (best job ever)
2.) Drawing designs that go on people forever make you better at design decisions when thinking about a design that works with the lines of a persons body... the same applies here. While the face of a die is not the same as the contours of an arm, the "canvas" size must be considered when making the design.

The design itself (while not bad) might get lost in a big way on a die. If you haven't yet, shrink it down to the size it would be on the die and see if you still want to use it. I have a feeling that a lot of the detail will run together making it unreadable. While GB is getting the idea of a nice larger, vignette design for the face of a die, the 3++ "wings" on either side need more work... or need to be simplified i.e. readable.

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@Kaleth6 · 663 weeks ago

Nice! Would prefer it on the 6 though --(roll)---and a SIX kirb fun times :)

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chris h. · 663 weeks ago

Actually, after thinking about it for a bit, if you take Archnomad's suggestion of making the cap skull a 3... you can then simply place the plus signs into the skulls eye sockets. That way you get our brand across and retain, somewhat, the pips on the 3 side of the die. However given the impact of that image, it might be better to use it for the 6 side because a ton little skulls for rending, snap shots, etc., would be way cool.

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chris h. · 663 weeks ago

*your brand... sorry.

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Kirby 118p · 663 weeks ago

couple of comments indicate this is going on the dice, it's not! This is for t-shirts, etc.

The dice will be the normal pips but instead of 3 shall be a 3++. literally that!

Does that change the opinion of some? Thanksfor feedback so far!

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chris h. · 663 weeks ago

Ah, well then... no, it really doesn't change my opinion then, he should still redo it to make it read better. It comes down to the readability of the 3++ brand and if this design accomplishes this or not. It's close, and really only needs to be tweaked.

Again, back to tattoo design... often the final design was the 3-4 redraw, talking with the client about small changes to get it exactly how they wanted. It's no different here.

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Dave T. · 663 weeks ago

Hey thats great and all but this isn't tattoo design. I think it looks great, the symmetry works well, the skull design sets the tone perfectly with the kind of humor this site presents, and although the double skull is a bit redundant it parodies the commissar hat well. The whole point of this project isn't some massive branding campaign, its to make fun gear for fans of the site. Chris it seems like you are completely missing the point.

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chris h. · 663 weeks ago

You're right it's not a tattoo design, its a vignette design to put on merchandise (branding) for the fans of this site to purchase to show their support for a site they really enjoy, but the premise of how to design such a graphic is the same.

Symmetry always works well, we're hard wired to look for it even though it doesn't truly exist.

Even though it isn't a branding "campaign", the better the design the more merch will sell, which is more advertising for 3++ in the real world.

I thought the point of "thoughts and feedback" was the jist of my previous posts. Like any other critique Goatboy and 3++ can totally ignore what I have to say, because really the decision is theirs to agree to. Asking for feedback on the design now is like a test market to narrow down what works best and what the people will ultimately buy with their hard earned money.

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Xasz · 663 weeks ago

I really like the new design.

But all my custom dice got the symbol on the six. (more like every custom dice I've ever seen...)
Would be kind of disturbing for my opponents, if I would mix them. :/

And 16mm is king.

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GlanceOnASix · 663 weeks ago

I'm looking forward to the dice and the shirts if you end up selling them at NOVA, the logo's quite fun too!

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Gramps · 663 weeks ago

Would these be available by Nova for us in the US?

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Kirby 118p · 663 weeks ago

shirts, yes. Assuming we get logo sat down quickly.

Dice, unlikely as we have to wait for people to put orders then I put in the order with company, then they send them out and then I send them to you. The shirts are a order as you go sort of thing so are much faster.

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Gramps · 663 weeks ago

Cool. I'm count me in for one for whatever the design is.

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LeTigre85 · 663 weeks ago

Just a quick Q. Will these be available for delivery to the UK? I'm v. interested.

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Bulwinkle1 22p · 663 weeks ago

Something about the shape of the 3's puts me off, I think it's the curl over at the top, it just seems a little oddto me (looks like a little laser warning sign) and the spacing of the central bar exagerates it in my opinion.

I actually like the double skull though.

Any thoughs of/for a tag line on the shirt (back or front)?

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Matt-Shadowlord · 663 weeks ago

Assuming that Goatboy would like some feedback, a good logo should be
Describable
Memorable
Effective without colour
Scalable i.e. work when just an inch in size
Relevant

The one above scores for the fifth and possibly second. It wouldn't be very scalable due to detail and I think it would be difficult to describe

It's main are for improvement is that a logo should be simple. This one is almost overpoweringly busy, and with no disrespect meant to the designer you might find the novelty wears off.