Collect and paint an army in 3 weeks (Part 1). The sleeper has awakened!

Sunday, April 24, 2011

Collect and paint an army in 3 weeks (Part 1). The sleeper has awakened!

Posted by Rupert

Hi again folks! It’s time I did a new army!

Last year I had a pretty solid year tournament wise and ended the year ranked 18^th in the UK (more by luck then skill in my opinion) but nevertheless I’m hoping to try and emulate that level of success this year.

I have the Mayhem tournament which is in Tolworth South London/Surrey which is being held in association with Heroes and Legends Games just around the corner (3 weeks I believe). As always I’m thinking about new armies and as always I can’t decide what to take!

There’s a few options on the table, Grey Knights, Deathwing, Space Wolves and I was keen on Dark Eldar but I can’t work out a cheap way to
make venoms (I’m not poor, just don’t like the viper/raider chop shop).

This particular tournament is what is typically referred to as battlepoints, those points being awarded for controlling objectives and as such there is a heavy emphasis on scoring units, as such my 4 TWC lord, 2 troop choice wolves are out of the window, the current list options are:

Grey Knights list

HQ (100)
Coteaz 100

TROOPS (840)
5 Terminators, 5 Halberds 200
10 strikes, Psyback 250
5 strikes, Psyback 150
5 strikes, Psyback 150
5 warriors, Psyback 70
5 warriors, 20

HEAVY SUPPORT (810)
Land Raider, Psybolt, Multi-Melta 270
Land Raider, Psybolt, Multi-Melta 270
Land Raider, Psybolt, Multi-Melta 270

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Basically idea is scoring land raiders and the strikes spread throughout the 4 psybacks, solid shooting, decent melee ability and 7 scoring units. You will note similarities with a list Stelek posted on his blog a few days back, that is indeed where the conept for this list came (I am a big fan of Godhammers and have 3 of these painted in the original Grey Knight colour scheme from my old BT/Daemonhunters army).

Death Wing List

HQ (130)
Belial, TH/SS 130

TROOPS (1230)
5 Deathwing, Apothecary, Standard, 5 TH/SS, Cyclone 290
5 Deathwing, 5 TH/SS, Cyclone 235
5 Deathwing, 5 TH/SS, Cyclone 235
5 Deathwing, 5 TH/SS, Cyclone 235
5 Deathwing, 5 TH/SS, Cyclone 235

HEAVY SUPPORT (390)
Auto/Las Pred 130
Auto/Las Pred 130
Auto/Las Pred 130

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25 thundershields in midfield is going to be a pain to remove, BUT there is an inherent weakness to AV14 and anti-horde is limited. I can drop a cyclone to put in 4 chainfists but I love thundershields (Ork Choppashields!)

Space Wolves List

HQ (100)
Rune Priest (2 powers) 100

ELITES (343)
6 Wolf Guard, 6 fist, 6 combi-melta 258
5 Wolf Scouts, Meltagun 85

TROOPS (850)
8 Grey Hunters, Meltagun, Banner, Rhino 170
8 Grey Hunters, Meltagun, Banner, Rhino 170
8 Grey Hunters, Meltagun, Banner, Rhino 170
8 Grey Hunters, Meltagun, Banner, Rhino 170
8 Grey Hunters, Meltagun, Banner, Rhino 170

HEAVY SUPPORT (345)
5 Long Fangs, 4 Missile Launchers 115
5 Long Fangs, 4 Missile Launchers 115
5 Long Fangs, 4 Missile Launchers 115

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A fair amount of this list I already have painted (when I say fair amount, I mean the long fangs and a few greys!). It is similar to the list Tony Kopach took to Adpeticon and placed 1^st with recently but I first saw a lit of this kind used by a good mate Ash Homewood at Mayhem last May at Warhammer World where he placed joint first with my close friend Richard Fielder who was also using a fairly similar list! The pedigree of this kind of list is unquestionable but it’s nice to do things a bit differently!

Dark Eldar List

HQ (170)
The Baron 105
Haemonculus, Shattershard 65

ELITES (262)
5 Incubi, Venom /w 2 Splinter Cannons 131
5 Incubi, Venom /w 2 Splinter Cannons 131

TROOPS (985)
20 Hellions, Helliarch 330
3 Wracks, Venom /w 2 Splinter Cannons 95
3 Wracks, Venom /w 2 Splinter Cannons 95
5 Wyches, Haywire, Hekatrix /w Agoniser, Venom /w 2 Splinter Cannons 155
5 Wyches, Haywire, Hekatrix /w Agoniser, Venom /w 2 Splinter Cannons 155
5 Wyches, Haywire, Hekatrix /w Agoniser, Venom /w 2 Splinter Cannons 155

HEAVY SUPPORT (315)
Ravager 105
Ravager 105
Ravager 105

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So this is a list I’m sure you’ve all seen before, I first saw (lies) something similar to it at the 40k Masters being run by Stu Robertson and a close friend of mine Michael Marlow runs the list I’ve posted here (from memory).

The big scoring hellion unit is a big deal and this is the list I would most like to do (entire army object light sourced would look cool!) but I’m struggling to find a method of making venoms which I like.

Sorry, I don't have any dark eldar painted! These Vipers from 2006 will have to do!

Well, that was a lot of waffle!

So what are your opinions on the posted lists? Any changes or suggestions to be made or perhaps you have another list in mind which is heavy on scoring units that you wish to share?

Much love and Happy Easter, Rupert xx

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Kirby 118p · 732 weeks ago

I'm voting DE but might make some changes to DE list. Never been a fan of small Wych squads and you've got a lot of anti-infantry and very little anti-tank in that list. Adding some Reavers over the Incubi or changing the Wyches to Warriors w/Blaster/Pistol in Venom would help this IMO. Change the Wracks to in Raiders as well for ranged pew pew. You still have lots of Venoms for anti-infantry but are upping your anti-tank which is important and your Troops aren't needing to be aggressive to be effective.

Edit: oh and Rupert found this Venom conversion: http://the-bowser.com/venom.jpg

Sweet.

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Kirby 118p · 732 weeks ago

And Ishould add my thoughts on the other lists.

GK not a fan. GK squads should have psycannons to at least be effective whilst the cheap acolyte squads could make the Land Raiders scoring.

Deathwing is pretty typical but I'd trade the Preds for Ravenwing squads with fast melta. GOod durable Troops which helps in terms of your missions.

Wolves is yawn :P and going to have issues without LasPlas in terms of shooting but you're going to have to lose Troops to do this so the other lists are probably better at this.

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Hardsix · 732 weeks ago

Dark eldar list potentially looks like it would be the most fun to play and play against, and is the only list offered that isnt a marine dex which should always be encouraged.

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OMGitsMCD · 732 weeks ago

Go deathwing Rupert. I voted grey knights but after seeing that list it looks amazing.

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devilinmypocket 36p · 732 weeks ago

I kind of want to see the Ork Deff Wing, Counts As Deathwing, army after that picture.

Seriously though, go with the Dark Eldar. The list looks like loads of fun to play even before tweaking it a bit, and I'd love to see them painted up.

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Saramoff · 732 weeks ago

Will it be a proper Deathwing or a Deff Wing army?

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Rupert40k 49p · 732 weeks ago

It's as or close to what I listed in the article :) x

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Jason · 732 weeks ago

I'd vote for the Deathwing, it's something different anyway.

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KingCronan · 732 weeks ago

i say DE. Its a list that looks cool and fun while the other ones look like a lot of tournament lists and are boring.

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Marshal Wilhelm · 732 weeks ago

Do you still have a Templars army?

I think Deldar are a bit hard to take to a tourney unless you have been playing them a lot. You have three weeks right? Not enough, imo.

Depending on if you still have a Templars list, I'd probably say keep with the Wolves. You already have:
the models
the experience
a solid Dex

If you were planning for 2012, do whatever style you like the best, but for now, I think Wolves.

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Rupert40k 49p · 732 weeks ago

I still have my Templars Wilhelm, BUT that army is as follows:

emp champ
inquis /w 2 mystics

5 initiates, flamer, Land Raider Crusader
5 initiates, flamer, Land Raider Crusader
5 storm troopers, flamer
5 storm troopers, flamer

Land Raider
Land Raider
Land Raider

Last year I believe I played 3 practice games, I attended at least 4 tournaments where I hadn't had any practice and I would have thought that must have had a negative impact on my performance. During moments of clairty I share your opinion on sticking to what I know best.

Thanks for the input mate xx

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Marshal Wilhelm · 732 weeks ago

Yeah, that Templar list is a bit light on for Marines, Speeders and perhaps light transports, imo.

I think this tourney will be 'For the Wolftime'
^^,

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tzeentchling 76p · 732 weeks ago

I voted Deffwing, because Venoms aren't out yet and you said you hate the existing easy conversions, and the DE list is practically nothing but Venoms. Also Deffwing is an awesome style of build.

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anon · 732 weeks ago

Incubi are 22 points a pop so each unit comes out at 175 instead of 131.

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Bro_Lo 82p · 732 weeks ago

If the deathwing are going to be orks... then Orkwing. How can you not?

Otherwise, Dark Eldar, purely because I'd like to see you do such characterful models quick-time.

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Marshal Wilhelm · 732 weeks ago

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?show...

Ork Space Wulfz

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Antebellum · 732 weeks ago

I voted for Dark Eldar as well. Originally, I voted because I do not like GKs and GKs and SW are (will be) quite popular. I also just lost to a Deathwing list so I wasn't going to vote for that :)

After seeing the lists ... I think Dark Eldar first, followed by GK's. I think the SW list is boring as well.

Also, love the models and paint job, you have a very unique style, which I think works.

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Michael Marlow · 729 weeks ago

My army list for what its worth is

Baron Sathonyx
Haemonculus - Shattershard

5 Incubi - Venom 2 Splinter Cannons
5 Incubi - Venom 2 Splinter Cannons

5 Wych's hekatric agoniser haywire grenades - Venom 2 Splinter Cannons
5 Wych's hekatric agoniser haywire grenades - Venom 2 Splinter Cannons
5 Wych's hekatric agoniser haywire grenades - Venom 2 Splinter Cannons
4 Wracks - Venom 2 Splinter Cannons
20 Hellions, Heliarch, agoniser

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